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Re:The World War Two bomber that cost more than the atomic bomb by jacquesm on Saturday September 06, 2025 @04:55PM (#45152757)
They're pretty rare. Ford was really big here at one point but it's a shadow of what it used to be. Tesla was an exception until Elon decided to go full-on Nazi-wannabe.

And it doesn't look like it will recover again:

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/teslas...

Other than that there are some people that have legitimate needs hard to cover with EU made vehicles, for instance larger pickups. Those are often imports, Toyota's, some Dodges, some GMs. Rarely Fords though, I don't remember when I last saw an F150 or an F250 here in NL, in Germany or Poland. The Dodge's are popular with landscaping crews here.

In '24 Tesla did very well here (NL), with close to 8% of the market. For '25 they'll be happy to have half of that. And I expect BYD to achieve parity or even to exceed Tesla for EVs. Ford is at 3.5% and Jeep at 0.5%. So in total, for NL including Tesla the USA represents about 12% of the market and next year more than likely less than 10% and if Trump keeps up his tariff bs it might be far lower than that.

Re:The World War Two bomber that cost more than the atomic bomb by tolien on Saturday September 06, 2025 @05:23PM (#45152971)
> Ford was really big here at one point but it's a shadow of what it used to be.

Speaking for the UK at least, it's not like we were really getting US-originated models from Ford: it used to be the Mondeo or Fiesta but now it's the Kuga. Similarly GM (AKA Vauxhall/Opel, now Stellantis) pushed the Corsa/Astra and so on rather than, say, the Chevy Suburban.

A majority of them are made within Europe (if not necessarily the EU, between the UK and Turkey) so should avoid tariffs.

Re:The World War Two bomber that cost more than the atomic bomb by wkat4242 on Sunday September 07, 2025 @12:08AM (#45155318)
Yeah the oversized gas guzzlers of the US were never popular in Europe. They're hard to park here, difficult to drive in narrow historical cities, expensive to fuel etc. And pick-ups are very unpopular here, unless you're a farmer there's no point in such a large open loading bed.
Re:The World War Two bomber that cost more than the atomic bomb by thyristan on Sunday September 07, 2025 @06:29AM (#45156984)
> And pick-ups are very unpopular here, unless you're a farmer there's no point in such a large open loading bed.

And even if you are a farmer, an american pick-up seems to be a rare choice around here. If you see something pick-up-like, it's usually more a variant of UniMog https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unimog .

And for the "small-time farmer without enough money to buy lots of equipment" (rare nowadays), tractors with tons of included functions were often more practical: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fendt_GT (no english version, sorry). Since Germany is more dense and distances are smaller, low speed is less of an issue I guess, compared to the US. And you can pull real farm equipment, which a pick-up car usually cannot.

Re:The World War Two bomber that cost more than the atomic bomb by wkat4242 on Sunday September 07, 2025 @06:53AM (#45157078)
Yeah it's also that American pick-ups usually don't feature 4WD (unless as an even more expensive option) which is kinda a need if you're into farming. It's a weird niche for people that want to show they are outdoorsy somehow but aren't really.

And for people that just need to move a lot, having it exposed to the open air is usually a dealbreaker. Panelvans are much more popular for that. Or MPVs with removable seats.

I have seen other countries where they are popular though. Like in Australia where they call it a "Ute". But yes also a long-distance country like you say.

Re:The World War Two bomber that cost more than the atomic bomb by defrost on Sunday September 07, 2025 @07:08AM (#45157156)
In our part of rural Australia ute (utility vehicle) is largely reserved for the classic Australian Ute (eg: 1974 HQ Holden Ute: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cztnXaND-Xo) which is a non US car footprint that'd be at home in Europe, cut down from a family sedan to be a single front bench seat in a two door cab, with everything behind as a tray.

Other parts of Australia do vary

As such things get bigger, get more doors, and veer towards a US size they get called crew cabs, trucks, pickup's, etc.

The wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ute_(vehicle)

  Traditionally, the term referred to vehicles built on passenger car chassis and with the cargo tray integrated with the passenger body (coupé utility vehicles).
  However, present-day usage of the term "ute" in Australian English and New Zealand English has expanded to include any vehicle with an open cargo area at the rear, which would be called a pickup truck in other countries. 
doesn't speak for all Australians and veers toward city usage.
Re:The World War Two bomber that cost more than the atomic bomb by Aloha on Sunday September 07, 2025 @01:33PM (#45160304)
The difference between a 2WD model and a 4WD model is about 10% (4k) on a base model 40,000 dollar truck.

They're all available with 4WD however.

Re:The World War Two bomber that cost more than the atomic bomb by iamacyborg on Sunday September 07, 2025 @05:54AM (#45156837)
A lot of Ranger pickups in the UK now too, at least from what I can see in London.
Re:The World War Two bomber that cost more than the atomic bomb by flohofwoe on Sunday September 07, 2025 @03:09AM (#45156057)
> Ford was really big here at one point but it's a shadow of what it used to be.

The Ford cards sold in Europe are mostly European-designed and European-built though, seeing an actual US Ford model on the road is quite rare (in Germany at least). And the Ford factory in Koeln is so old (founded in 1925) that I'd say it's not unusual to recognize Ford as a German brand over here.

Re:The World War Two bomber that cost more than the atomic bomb by Rover222 on Sunday September 07, 2025 @10:34AM (#45158497)
What’s the thing with calling him a Nazi? Being against mass immigration? His support for the German AFD party? That’s the 2nd most popular party, hardly a fringe extremist Nazi party, despite its distant roots. Far left people are lately the most anti semitic, so it’s all ironic.

If you think he really did a Nazi salute, you’ve just drank the media kool aide.

Re:The World War Two bomber that cost more than the atomic bomb by TheOtherHobbes on Sunday September 07, 2025 @10:57AM (#45158744)
The AfD are literally pitching themselves as Nazi 2.0, so his support for violent racist extremists in Germany and Rest of World - notably the UK - is entirely on point.

But ultimately the Nazis were a specific brand of fascism. You don't need a Hugo Boss uniform and a lower limb disorder to be a fascist.

You do need to be actively opposed to fair elections and other bedrock progressive values, a cynical exploiter and promoter of race hatred and violence for political ends, and a dedicated corporatist.

The fact that his own chatbot labelled itself MechaHitler after he updated the system prompt is just icing.

Re:The World War Two bomber that cost more than the atomic bomb by Rover222 on Sunday September 07, 2025 @11:29PM (#45164404)
That's a lot of hyped up delusions in one post. And so many people think only the right wing lives in a media bubble.