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Re:Claude Sonnet Will Ship in Xcode by nonethewiser on Friday August 29, 2025 @10:45AM (#45064834)
>The irony of this, is that Microsoft was trying to push CoPilot everywhere, however eventually Apple, Google and JetBrains have their own AI integrations, taking CoPilot out of the loop.

What is the irony? Microsoft integrated copilot in Vscode, bing, etc. Apple is integrating claude in Xcode, Jetbrains has their own AI.

Microsoft moved first with putting AI into their products then other companies put other AI into their products. Nothing about this seems ironic or in any way surprising.

Re:Claude Sonnet Will Ship in Xcode by __alexs on Friday August 29, 2025 @10:58AM (#45065007)
The irony is that most people don't know how to use the word ironic. Personally I blame Alanis Morissette.
Re:Claude Sonnet Will Ship in Xcode by arcticbull on Friday August 29, 2025 @12:38PM (#45066298)
The irony is biting.
Re:Claude Sonnet Will Ship in Xcode by SAI_Peregrinus on Friday August 29, 2025 @03:02PM (#45068063)
It's ironic that a song about irony contains no actual examples of irony. But since that's ironic, is it actually an appropriately named song?
Re:Claude Sonnet Will Ship in Xcode by yunwal on Friday August 29, 2025 @03:59PM (#45068706)
The song contains many instances of cosmic irony[0], as well as a few instances of other types of irony (e.g. "Well isn't this nice?").

[0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony#Types_of_irony

Re:Claude Sonnet Will Ship in Xcode by dreamcompiler on Friday August 29, 2025 @04:52PM (#45069269)
Rain on your wedding day is not cosmic irony or any other kind. It's simply misfortune.
Re:Claude Sonnet Will Ship in Xcode by yunwal on Tuesday September 02, 2025 @12:39PM (#45105481)
> presents agents as always ultimately thwarted by forces beyond human control

The implication of "rain on your wedding day" is that your wedding day is something you plan out extensively, trying to create some perfect event. And yet it can still be thwarted by weather. Obviously it takes some interpretation since it's a situation compressed into a 1-line song lyric but yes it can (and should, given that the song is called "ironic") be read as an example of cosmic irony.

Re:Claude Sonnet Will Ship in Xcode by __alexs on Tuesday September 02, 2025 @12:49PM (#45105652)
What's more ironic, a wedding on a rainy day, or rain on a wedding day?
Re:Claude Sonnet Will Ship in Xcode by ergocoder on Friday August 29, 2025 @11:10AM (#45065167)
Yeah, there's no irony.

Apple and Google will never choose to integrate Microsoft's services or products willingly.

It would have been more surprising if they decided to depend on Microsoft.

Re:Claude Sonnet Will Ship in Xcode by pjmlp on Friday August 29, 2025 @01:05PM (#45066671)
The irony is that Microsoft has several cases where it gets there first, only to be left behind when competition catches up.

Bing is irrelevant, VSCode might top in some places, but it is cursor and Claude that people are reaching for, VS is really only used by people like myself that still care about Windows development or console SDKs, otherwise even for .NET people are switching to Rider.