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Re:Some thoughts on LLMs and software development by brabel on Friday August 29, 2025 @02:29AM (#45060869)
I don’t think anyone needs to be convinced at this point. Every developer is using LLM and I really can’t believe someone who has made a career out of automating things wouldn’t be immediately drawn to trying them at least. Every single company seems convinced and using it too. The comparison to crypto makes no sense.
Re:Some thoughts on LLMs and software development by johnnienaked on Friday August 29, 2025 @02:38AM (#45060928)
I need to be convinced.

Go ahead, convince me. Please describe clearly and concisely in one or two sentences the clear economic value/advantage of LLMs.

Re:Some thoughts on LLMs and software development by computerex on Friday August 29, 2025 @02:42AM (#45060959)
The company I work for uses LLM's for digital marketing, the company has over 100M ARR selling products build on top of LLM's with real life measurable impact as measured by KPIs.
Re:Some thoughts on LLMs and software development by johnnienaked on Friday August 29, 2025 @03:10AM (#45061113)
Digital marketing is old. What about LLMs gives an advantage to digital marketing?
Re:Some thoughts on LLMs and software development by throwboy2047 on Friday August 29, 2025 @03:31AM (#45061243)
It’s just plain mean to make the Emperor speak of the thread count of his “clothes”.
Re:Some thoughts on LLMs and software development by computerex on Saturday August 30, 2025 @10:48PM (#45079912)
Review responses for example. Responding to reviews has shown to have positive impact on brands. Traditionally it’s been hard to respond to all the reviews for high volume locations. Not anymore.

That’s one example, there are dozens of processes that are now relatively easy to automate due to LLMs.

Re:Some thoughts on LLMs and software development by kaosoaksh on Friday August 29, 2025 @10:27AM (#45064586)
> real life measurable impact as measured by KPIs

This is making me even more skeptical of your claims. Individual metrics are often very poor at tracking reality.

Re:Some thoughts on LLMs and software development by johnnienaked on Friday August 29, 2025 @01:02PM (#45066635)
Individual metrics are often very good at distorting reality, which is why corporate executives love them so much.
Re:Some thoughts on LLMs and software development by utyop22 on Friday August 29, 2025 @04:43AM (#45061697)
Careful now, you will scare them away!!!!!

People love stuff that makes them feel like they are doing less work. Cognitive biases distort reality and rational thinking, we know this already through behavioural economics.

Re:Some thoughts on LLMs and software development by bolobo on Friday August 29, 2025 @03:01AM (#45061063)
> Every developer is using LLM

Citation needed. In my circles, Senior engineer are not using them a lot, or in very specific use cases. My company is blocking LLMs use apart from a few pilots (which I am part of, and while claude code is cool, its effectiveness on a 10-year old distributed codebase is pretty low).

You can't make sweeping statements like this, software engineering is a large field.

And I use claude code for my personal projects, I think it's really cool. But the code quality is still not there.

Re:Some thoughts on LLMs and software development by brabel on Friday August 29, 2025 @06:16AM (#45062275)
Stack overflow published recently a survey in which something like 80% of developers were using AI and the rest “wants to soon”. By now I have trouble believing a competent developer is still convinced they shouldn’t use it at all , though a few ludites perhaps might hold on for a bit longer.
Re:Some thoughts on LLMs and software development by skydhash on Friday August 29, 2025 @07:13AM (#45062598)
Stack overflow published a report about text editors and Emacs wasn’t part of the list. So I’m very sceptical about SO surveys.
Re:Some thoughts on LLMs and software development by brabel on Friday August 29, 2025 @11:07AM (#45065127)
I was also offended by that :D.
Re:Some thoughts on LLMs and software development by sarchertech on Friday August 29, 2025 @07:19AM (#45062630)
“Using AI” is a very broad term. Using AI to generate lurem ipsum is still “using AI”.
Re:Some thoughts on LLMs and software development by diegolas on Friday August 29, 2025 @08:38AM (#45063300)
> You can't make sweeping statements like this, software engineering is a large field.

that goes both ways