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Re:Claude Sonnet Will Ship in Xcode by tcoff91 on Thursday August 28, 2025 @10:57PM (#45059634)
Neovim and Emacs don’t have it built in. Use open source tools.
Re:Claude Sonnet Will Ship in Xcode by simonh on Friday August 29, 2025 @12:08AM (#45060072)
They both support it via plugins. Xcode doesn’t enable it by default, you need to enable it and sign into an account. It’s not really all that different.
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Re:Claude Sonnet Will Ship in Xcode by TheDong on Friday August 29, 2025 @01:03AM (#45060401)
What commonly gets installed in those cases is actual malware, a RAT (Remote Admin Tool) that lets the attacker later run commands on your laptop (kinda like an OpenSSH server, but also punching a hole through nat and with a server that they can broadcast commands broadly to the entire fleet).

If the attacker wants to use AI to assist in looking for valuables on your machine, they won't install AI on your machine, they'll use the remote shell software to pop a shell session, and ask AI they're running on one of their machines to look around in the shell for anything sensitive.

If an attacker has access to your unlocked computer, it is already game over, and LLM tools is quite far down the list of dangerous software they could install.

Maybe we should ban common RAT software first, like `ssh` and `TeamViewer`.

Re:Claude Sonnet Will Ship in Xcode by jumploops on Friday August 29, 2025 @01:24AM (#45060523)
> They won’t install AI on your machine

Actually they’ll just the AI you already have on your machine[0]

In this attack, the malware would use Claude Code (with your credentials) to scan your own machine.

Much easier than running the inference themselves!

[0]https://semgrep.dev/blog/2025/security-alert-nx-compromised-...

Re:Claude Sonnet Will Ship in Xcode by renewiltord on Friday August 29, 2025 @01:15AM (#45060474)
So called "Secure" shell is how many attackers got in my Bitcoin. They call it secure but then attackers were able to guess my password and now all my apes gone.

Edit: okay I paid the price by being rate-limited so I have to edit to reply.

The real thing is that top level comment was being utterly retarded so I decided to post something equivalently stupid. But in the end, it turns out the rest of you are kinder to idiots. That's probably better for all of you so I shall try to learn that lesson.

Re:Claude Sonnet Will Ship in Xcode by TheDong on Friday August 29, 2025 @01:22AM (#45060509)
You know, I should have realized this was a troll account with the previous comment.

I guess that's on me for being oblivious enough that it took this obvious of a comment for me to be sure you're intentionally trolling. Nice work.

Re:Claude Sonnet Will Ship in Xcode by OsrsNeedsf2P on Friday August 29, 2025 @12:29AM (#45060206)
If you're worried about someone accessing your unlocked computer to install LLMs, you might need to rethink your security model.
Re:Claude Sonnet Will Ship in Xcode by renewiltord on Friday August 29, 2025 @12:37AM (#45060255)
They could install anything. Including Claude Code and then run it in background as agent to exfiltrate data. I'm a security professional. This is unacceptable
Re:Claude Sonnet Will Ship in Xcode by BalinKing on Friday August 29, 2025 @12:45AM (#45060306)
I think the parent commenter was pointing out that, instead of installing Claude Code, they could just install actual malware. It's like that phrase Raymond Chen always uses: "you're already on the other side of the airtight hatchway."
Re:Claude Sonnet Will Ship in Xcode by renewiltord on Friday August 29, 2025 @01:14AM (#45060468)
Yes but Claude Code could install malware when I'm not paying attention. And when I remove with MalwareBytes it will return because LLMs are not AGI.
Re:Claude Sonnet Will Ship in Xcode by BalinKing on Friday August 29, 2025 @10:21AM (#45064514)
Isn't the general advice that if malware has been installed specifically due to physical access, then the entire machine should be considered permanently compromised? That is to say, if someone has access to your unlocked machine, I've heard that it's way too late for MalwareBytes to be reliable....
Re:Claude Sonnet Will Ship in Xcode by whatevermom on Friday August 29, 2025 @01:03AM (#45060399)
Yes. I am so worried as well. This is why I installed an AI to double-check if the password I entered is correct when logging in. Fight fire with fire
Re:Claude Sonnet Will Ship in Xcode by eddyg on Friday August 29, 2025 @12:43AM (#45060293)
You should install LuLu if you’re that concerned. There are far more nefarious ways of “getting your data”.

https://objective-see.org/products/lulu.html

Re:Claude Sonnet Will Ship in Xcode by tcoff91 on Friday August 29, 2025 @08:01PM (#45070755)
That seems perfectly fine and noncontroversial then. Good on Apple for doing it that way.