At some point relatively early in the Soviet revolution, recurring famine was abolished. Famine occurred about once a decade for the entirety of documented history. Then it stopped. The interesting thing isn't how famine occurred in the early 30s (or the 40s to a much lesser extent), it's how it was absolutely prevented from occurring since. Industrialization of agriculture, collectivization, and centralized grain distribution was the solution. You have to admit that it happened. It was the same with the Chinese revolution. My point is that this all happened before "opening up", and that it was part of the logic of socialism.

Yeah, that’s not what happened.

The Wikipedia’s article I linked in the previous post has a good overview.

Also the list of famines worldwide [1] does’t confirm your statement with famine every 10 years.

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_famines

They obviously meant famines in the location that is being discussed. Why would they be talking about worldwide famines? How would a famine in South America be relevant to the Soviets?

The famine of the 19xx scale is the “world-grade” event.

There were just few of such magnitude in the entire world in all of our knowledge.

It's been 80+ years since a famine in the former Soviet Union. Here's your Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droughts_and_famines_in_Russia...

> From the beginning of the 11th to the end of the 16th century, on the territory of Russia for every century there were 8 crop failures, which were repeated every 13 years, sometimes causing prolonged famine in a significant territory.

(That was already right there in your Wikipedia link. Sources are more scattered regarding the 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries, but it's all there if you search for it. One thing I was just reminded of is that in the 19th century and up until 1917, the Russian Empire maintained communal granaries to combat recurring famine, but to no avail.)

> After 1947 there were no known famines.

Did the Bolsheviks also control the weather? Also Lenin was dead by 1930. Your fanaticism is showing.

It’s embarrassing in some intellectual circles to link to Wikipedia repeatedly while giving the same talking points as western state departments and media.

I would like to link to my great grandparents, but unfortunately, they are no loner with us and there is no internet there either.

Some other cultures still has the practice of “talking to your family” even after you turn 18.

My relatives who remember famine of 1930-x and the help of soviets were still alive when I already was an adult.

And you would fucking be crazy to call a person born in 1920-s in Russia a product of a western state department.

I did not say you are a product of western state depts. I was not speaking literally. Re-read the comment. Western state depts want you to be a reactionary. They didn’t invent the concept of being one. Bringing up your family doesn’t change any of that.