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Re:Framework Laptop 16. Upgraded! by soperj on Tuesday August 26, 2025 @11:58AM (#45028332)
Thinkpads still have buttons. I don't ever use the trackpad, just the nub and buttons.
Re:Framework Laptop 16. Upgraded! by JoshTriplett on Tuesday August 26, 2025 @12:16PM (#45028606)
I use the touchpad together with the buttons, on my ThinkPad, and rarely use the stick.
Re:Framework Laptop 16. Upgraded! by rustyminnow on Tuesday August 26, 2025 @12:08PM (#45028480)
I would be all in on the nub if mine didn't have such terrible drift. Trackpad with top buttons beats any other trackpad though.
Re:Framework Laptop 16. Upgraded! by opan on Tuesday August 26, 2025 @08:35PM (#45034065)
You may be running into the auto calibration.
Re:Framework Laptop 16. Upgraded! by SoftTalker on Tuesday August 26, 2025 @12:01PM (#45028378)
Best keyboard/mouse implementation ever. I use a thinkpad keyboard on my desktop. A separate mouse feels so klunky by comparison.
Re:Framework Laptop 16. Upgraded! by neilv on Tuesday August 26, 2025 @12:27PM (#45028773)
I have bad news for you:

https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/p/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpadp/th...

Someone should scoop up the niche market of anguished ThinkPad devotees, with a TrackPoint and a good, non-chiclet keyboard. Maybe Framework, leveraging its modular system. Maybe a Framework-compatible third-party.

Re:Framework Laptop 16. Upgraded! by rootnod3 on Tuesday August 26, 2025 @01:52PM (#45029959)
Why have a trackpoint if there are no buttons? Dafuq?
Re:Framework Laptop 16. Upgraded! by neilv on Tuesday August 26, 2025 @02:03PM (#45030105)
I think you're supposed to touch the touchpad in particular ways with your thumb, while using your index finger on the TrackPoint stick.

I wonder what the set intersection is, between people who want TrackPoint sticks, and people who don't want TrackPoint buttons.

ThinkPad industrial design the last several years seems focused on looking thin and sleek -- like an Apple product, only in matte black, with a red accent in the middle of the keyboard -- but some of the human factors changes aren't intuitive to me.

Re:Framework Laptop 16. Upgraded! by JoshTriplett on Tuesday August 26, 2025 @05:40PM (#45032656)
Current models of the X1 have the option of having buttons or not. Which seems fine, but hopefully it isn't a sign that they're trying to drop the option of buttons.
Re:Framework Laptop 16. Upgraded! by mrheosuper on Tuesday August 26, 2025 @10:18PM (#45034760)
it's the sign they are researching if there are enough demand for the nipple.
Re:Framework Laptop 16. Upgraded! by smj-edison on Tuesday August 26, 2025 @05:45PM (#45032712)
I just watched Framework's other video talking about what they're working on[1], and they mentioned they're trying to get the trackpoint working, but they're having issues with it damaging the screen due to the low clearance.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0RzUBqtgODM

Re:Framework Laptop 16. Upgraded! by neilv on Tuesday August 26, 2025 @06:32PM (#45033169)
Re:Framework Laptop 16. Upgraded! by soperj on Wednesday August 27, 2025 @11:57AM (#45041401)
what a dumb thing to do. How do you even scroll with the nub?
Re:Framework Laptop 16. Upgraded! by tracker1 on Tuesday August 26, 2025 @01:32PM (#45029708)
Some Dell business models have them as well... I used to be a fan, but at this point I prefer the Mac touchpad experience. The closest I've felt are Razor and a few higher end Chromebooks (that I won' t buy). I'm hoping other mfgs get a lot closer to the Apple touchpad experience as patents start to expire in the next few years.

There's a few that are close, but still not close enough. Also, Mac slightly changed their default settings (regarding the physical click behavior), I never recall what it is but only that I change it back when starting out on a new machine.