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Re:The F-35 is losing the trade war by slaw on Saturday August 23, 2025 @04:26PM (#44998865)
Rafale was shot down by J-10 plane using PL-15 missile. Rafale, Eurofighter and J-10 are old 20+ years designs. Europe has nothing equivalent to Chinese J-35 or even previous generation J-20.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shenyang_J-35

Re:The F-35 is losing the trade war by mcphage on Saturday August 23, 2025 @07:39PM (#44999989)
> Europe has nothing equivalent to Chinese J-35 or even previous generation J-20.

How many J-35s does China have?

Re:The F-35 is losing the trade war by LargoLasskhyfv on Saturday August 23, 2025 @08:44PM (#45000289)
According to Wikipedia: 8+, so more than eight?
Re:The F-35 is losing the trade war by mcphage on Saturday August 23, 2025 @09:07PM (#45000391)
That’s… not really very many.
Re:The F-35 is losing the trade war by slaw on Sunday August 24, 2025 @01:01AM (#45001534)
8+ J-35, 1 prototype J-36, 1 prototype J-50 and 250+ J-20. Europe has nothing like that.
Re:The F-35 is losing the trade war by cm2187 on Sunday August 24, 2025 @01:18AM (#45001606)
Are you talking about manufacturing or operating? Europe has something like 225 F-35 operational right now with more coming.
Re:The F-35 is losing the trade war by slaw on Sunday August 24, 2025 @03:50AM (#45002240)
Manufacturing.
Re:The F-35 is losing the trade war by actionfromafar on Saturday August 23, 2025 @07:31PM (#44999945)
To be fair, China doesn't have anything like the J-35 either, it's a prototype.
Re:The F-35 is losing the trade war by cm2187 on Saturday August 23, 2025 @11:22PM (#45001056)
And I hope they removed the Lockheed Martin logo from the CAD files before sending them to manufacturing!
Re:The F-35 is losing the trade war by spwa4 on Sunday August 24, 2025 @07:54AM (#45003535)
I don't think their manager will allow that, since all their aircraft designers work at Lockheed Martin during the week ...