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Re:Mark Zuckerberg freezes AI hiring amid bubble fears by Q6T46nT668w6i3m on Thursday August 21, 2025 @11:02AM (#44973654)
There’s no evidence that it’ll scale like that. Progress in AI has always been a step function.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg freezes AI hiring amid bubble fears by ghurtado on Thursday August 21, 2025 @11:36AM (#44974111)
There's also no evidence that it won't, so your opinion carries exactly the same weight as theirs.

> Progress in AI has always been a step function.

There's decisively no evidence of that, since whatever measure you use to rate "progress in AI" is bound to be entirely subjective, especially with such a broad statement.

Re:Mark Zuckerberg freezes AI hiring amid bubble fears by dml2135 on Thursday August 21, 2025 @01:31PM (#44975599)
What is your definition of "evidence" here? The evidence, in my view, are physical (as in, available computing power) and algorithmic limitations.

We don't expect steel to suddenly have new properties, and we don't expect bubble sort to suddenly run in O(n) time. You could ask -- well what is the evidence they won't, but it's a silly question -- the evidence is our knowledge of how things work.

Saying that improvement in AI is inevitable depends on the assumption of new discoveries and new algorithms beyond the current corpus of machine learning. They may happen, or they may not, but I think the burden of proof is higher on those spending money in a way that assumes it will happen.

Re:Mark Zuckerberg freezes AI hiring amid bubble fears by abc_lisper on Thursday August 21, 2025 @02:30PM (#44976351)
What do you call GPT 3.5?
Re:Mark Zuckerberg freezes AI hiring amid bubble fears by ezst on Thursday August 21, 2025 @02:38PM (#44976433)
> There's also no evidence that it won't

There are signs, though. Every "AI" cycle, ever, has revolved around some algorithmic discovery, followed by a winter in search for the next one. This one is no different and propped up by LLMs, whose limitations we know quite well by now: "intelligence" is elusive, throwing more compute at them produces vastly diminishing returns, throwing more training data at them is no longer feasible (we came short of it even before the well got poisoned). Now the competitors are stuck at the same level, within percent points of one another, with the difference explained by fine-tuning techniques and not by technical prowess. Unless a cool new technique come yesterday to dislodge LLMs, we are in for a new winter.

Re:Mark Zuckerberg freezes AI hiring amid bubble fears by mschuster91 on Thursday August 21, 2025 @06:44PM (#44979037)
Oh, I believe that while LLMs are a dead end now, the applications of AI in vision and physical (i.e. robots with limbs) world will usher in yet another wrecking of the lower classes of society.

Just as AI has killed off all demand for lower-skill work in copywriting, translation, design and coding, it will do so for manufacturing. And that will be a dangerous bloodbath because there will not be enough juniors any more to replace seniors aging out or quitting in frustration of being reduced to cleaning up AI crap.

Re:Mark Zuckerberg freezes AI hiring amid bubble fears by Q6T46nT668w6i3m on Friday August 22, 2025 @01:13PM (#44987061)
I don’t follow. We have benchmarks that have survived decades and illustrate the steps.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg freezes AI hiring amid bubble fears by ninetyninenine on Thursday August 21, 2025 @11:35AM (#44974094)
Uh it’s been multiple repeated step ups in the last 15 years. The trending is up up up.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg freezes AI hiring amid bubble fears by the8472 on Thursday August 21, 2025 @12:33PM (#44974762)
rodent -> homo sapiens brain scales just fine? It's tenuous evidence, but not zero.
Re:Mark Zuckerberg freezes AI hiring amid bubble fears by eichin on Thursday August 21, 2025 @02:32PM (#44976368)
The innovation here is that the step function didn't traditionally go down