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Re:Once Again, Oil States Thwart Agreement on Plastics by Ygg2 on Saturday August 16, 2025 @04:35AM (#44921425)
Seeing China criticize Gulf states for torpedoing the agreement is sure something.
Re:Once Again, Oil States Thwart Agreement on Plastics by fakedang on Saturday August 16, 2025 @05:08PM (#44926947)
China is de-oiling at a rapid pace and wants to lead the world in renewables infrastructure production. Which will mean eventually butting heads with the oil producers (which also includes the US). China is also getting cheap Russian oil, and the Gulf states have proven to be unreliable allies for them.
Re:Once Again, Oil States Thwart Agreement on Plastics by Ygg2 on Sunday August 17, 2025 @05:59AM (#44930362)
It's the biggest plastic producer complaining about plastic input (oil) sabotaging a plastic deal.

I can sen China dumping oil for power generation but there is no way they will switch plastics production on a dime.

Re:Once Again, Oil States Thwart Agreement on Plastics by fakedang on Sunday August 17, 2025 @03:21PM (#44934132)
China doesn't produce plastic as is. They produce plastic products, after buying the plastic from oil producers. The largest plastic raw materials producer is SABIC, a Saudi company.

There are currently no viable alternatives for humanity to replace plastics in daily use while still maintaining the low cost of those products. Unless humanity opts for more expensive material to subvert plastic consumption, plastic is going to be used regardless.

And China is simply feeding that demand in Western countries with those goods, because those countries want those goods for cheap.