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Re:What Does Palantir Actually Do? by Hikikomori on Thursday August 14, 2025 @04:19PM (#44905175)
It gave them targets but was it correct? Afaik people in LA are targeted by police simply for living in the area of known drug gangs. Guess it's a lot like Israel and Hamas targets.
Re:What Does Palantir Actually Do? by LearnYouALisp on Thursday August 14, 2025 @04:45PM (#44905512)
Or just being on the street and appearing Latino:

https://www.google.com/search?q=citizens+abducted+by+ice (See the Guardian story)

Re:What Does Palantir Actually Do? by throwway120385 on Thursday August 14, 2025 @05:30PM (#44905937)
I figured this was coming. It'll get really bad if we eliminate birthright citizenship because then you'll have to supply papers proving you're a citizen like your parents' or their parents' birth certificates. Good luck providing those to anyone from a prison in Nicaragua or El Salvador.
Re:What Does Palantir Actually Do? by apparent on Friday August 15, 2025 @01:58AM (#44909062)
The EO only calls for elimination of birthright citizenship on a prospective basis. It would not affect anyone who is currently a citizen. It would simply be marked on your birth certificate if you were a citizen, based on whether your parents are citizens (either one). This is not at all remarkable, and plenty of countries operate this way. The US is somewhat anomalous in granting citizenship to children born to tourists or illegal immigrants, simply because they were in the US when the child was born.
Re:What Does Palantir Actually Do? by internet_points on Friday August 15, 2025 @04:20AM (#44909840)
wait so if you give birth as a tourist in the US your kid has to fill out IRS and FBAR forms each year even though they only lived in the US for their first week or whatever?
Re:What Does Palantir Actually Do? by CalRobert on Friday August 15, 2025 @04:53AM (#44910057)
Yes, unless they renounce. They might also not be able to invest in their home country and things like the sale of their home are taxed by the US. Starting a business or buying an etf are also fraught with peril.

The only other remotely similar country is Eritrea

Re:What Does Palantir Actually Do? by apparent on Friday August 15, 2025 @11:45AM (#44913802)
Not if they never plan to actually live there, I imagine.
Re:What Does Palantir Actually Do? by throwway120385 on Friday August 15, 2025 @03:31PM (#44916512)
You'd still have to apply for a Social Security Card for them to have anything to worry about. That's not automatically granted to babies at birth. The hospital should certify the birth and give you paperwork from something like a state's vital records department but you still have to present that to the SSA. Ostensibly yes they are automatically citizens of the US but they're in a weird spot I would think that you could resolve with a court case if the IRS suddenly came after them for back taxes or something when they were adults. Honestly that sounds like such a ridiculous situation that I can't imagine it's happened.
Re:What Does Palantir Actually Do? by GuinansEyebrows on Friday August 15, 2025 @01:10PM (#44914906)
> It would simply be marked on your birth certificate if you were a citizen, based on whether your parents are citizens (either one).

hmm, perhaps with a gold star, or a pink triangle?

Re:What Does Palantir Actually Do? by apparent on Friday August 15, 2025 @02:08PM (#44915619)
Probably it would just say, like it does in so many other countries. No need for crypto-conspiracy theories since it's a totally normal thing in most of the world.
Re:What Does Palantir Actually Do? by dogman144 on Thursday August 14, 2025 @04:22PM (#44905213)
You should look into how the LA targeting works, and what vendor drove data-driven policing like this. If I recall, it might have been Chicago PD or NYC that dumped Palantir bc the issue you note + cost.
Re:What Does Palantir Actually Do? by lazide on Thursday August 14, 2025 @06:15PM (#44906330)
Do you really think the current admin cares?
Re:What Does Palantir Actually Do? by skort on Thursday August 14, 2025 @07:13PM (#44906830)
They didn't even care that involvement in Iraq was based on lies.
Re:What Does Palantir Actually Do? by ineedaj0b on Thursday August 14, 2025 @07:40PM (#44907016)
jd vance mentions that very thing multiple times in interviews.
Re:What Does Palantir Actually Do? by WillPostForFood on Friday August 15, 2025 @03:21AM (#44909522)
Trump launched MAGA by attacking the Iraq war, and the Bush family.

This is 2008:

“When she first got in and was named speaker, I met her. And I’m very impressed by her. I think she’s a very impressive person. I like her a lot. But I was surprised that she didn’t do more in terms of Bush and going after Bush. It was almost – it just seemed like she was going to really look to impeach Bush and get him out of office, which personally I think would’ve been a wonderful thing,” Trump told Blitzer in the interview.

“Impeaching him?” Blitzer asked.

“Absolutely. For the war. For the war,” said Trump, referring to the 2003 invasion of Iraq. “Well, he lied. He got us into the war with lies, and I mean, look at the trouble Bill Clinton got into with something that was totally unimportant and they tried to impeach him, which was nonsense. And yet Bush got us into this horrible war with lies. By lying. By saying they had weapons of mass destruction. By saying all sorts of things that turned out not to be true.”

And in the 2015 Debate attack Jeb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4ThZcq1oJQ