News for hackers. Stuff that matters.
Re:Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Pa... by pjc50 on Monday August 11, 2025 @04:46AM (#44862036)
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/emiliano-s-agents-left-beh...

ICE are to a large extent above the law. Their entire purpose is to snatch people and move them to locations where they can be denied legal redress. A couple of high profile cases have only got redress due to very dedicated intervention by congresspeople, which does not scale.

I think people need to start reckoning with the underlying problem, which is that oppressive policing in America is popular provided it's happening to someone else.

Re:Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Pa... by netsharc on Monday August 11, 2025 @08:16AM (#44863339)
Geez, East Germany's State Security, but with supremely better surveillance tech, and AI.

Curious how "Homeland Security" and "State Security" are equivalent names.

Looking forward to a "Report suspicious neighbors"-program next. Your neighbor made fun of Trump? Report this unamerican activity to Kristi Noem!

Re:Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Pa... by dlachausse on Monday August 11, 2025 @08:39AM (#44863493)
Minnesota implemented this during COVID…

https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/coronavirus-in-minnes...

I’m sure there are also ways to anonymously report illegal immigrants to ICE as well. People are still free to criticize Trump all they want. The First Amendment is pretty clear on this.

Re:Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Pa... by pjc50 on Monday August 11, 2025 @12:07PM (#44865853)
American nationals whose parents are both Americans are safe. People in the US who are not full citizens are at significant risk. People who are American citizens by birthright are currently safe, but there are explicit plans to attack birthright citizenship.
Re:Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Pa... by troyvit on Monday August 11, 2025 @10:45AM (#44864717)
Re:Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Pa... by freilanzer on Monday August 11, 2025 @09:23AM (#44863799)
> People are still free to criticize Trump all they want. The First Amendment is pretty clear on this.

In theory.

Re:Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Pa... by dlachausse on Monday August 11, 2025 @09:28AM (#44863838)
No, in actuality. People criticize Trump daily without fear of repercussions.

He's not a king or a dictator. Much of his agenda is being put in check by the other two branches of government.

Re:Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Pa... by asacrowflies on Monday August 11, 2025 @11:16AM (#44865108)
Are you high lol
Re:Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Pa... by Atreiden on Monday August 11, 2025 @12:44PM (#44866372)
In theory, yes. In practice, he already has a long track record of leveraging his position, and the institutions it allows him to command, to enact personal vengeance upon his enemies. The examples are numerous, but one need look no further than Stephen Colbert.

Paramount paid $16 million to the Trump library fund to settle a meritless case, because of his ability to wield the FCC to squash their merger.

Colbert called this out on his show as rampant extortion by the Trump Administration, and they promptly cancelled his show.

Sure, you can argue that this wasn't a police/military act, and the government itself did not punish Colbert for his views and speech.

But in cronyism, especially under a regime actively trying to gut the federal government and allow private parties to assume it's functions, this becomes at best a nominal distinction. If you, in an official government capacity, can wield your power to enact vengeance on your opponents and dissidents, maybe even going as far as to diacriminate against entire states that vote against you (https://news.bloomberglaw.com/us-law-week/trump-discriminati...), you have a mechanism with which you can quasi-legally (good luck fighting this one in court) punish Speech You Do Not Like.

For the average, or even exceptional person, this functionally amounts to a restriction on your speech. I am highly critical of Trump, but not under any avenue tied to my identity.

I am far from the only person who operates this way. The assertion that you can freely citizen the administration without fear of reprisal does not hold water.

Re:Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Pa... by ben_w on Monday August 11, 2025 @04:33PM (#44869144)
> Curious how "Homeland Security" and "State Security" are equivalent names.

Yes, but the unfortunate thing with names is that people get to pick them to sound however they want.

This is why the official name of the Berlin Wall translates as "anti-fascist protection barrier", along with all the examples that probably inspired 1984 (written in 48, so before the wall).

Re:Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Pa... by dlachausse on Monday August 11, 2025 @09:03AM (#44863643)
How much of the damage done was specifically by ICE agents and how much of it was done by illegal immigrants resisting arrest? I suspect that some of them went to hide in many of the spaces that were “torn up” by ICE agents. In many of these raids , people are not turning themselves over peacefully. If you harbor criminals you should not be surprised when law enforcement combs every inch of the building to find them.

There is also the option of being paid to self deport if you know that you are in the country illegally.

https://www.ice.gov/self-deportation

Re:Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Pa... by asacrowflies on Monday August 11, 2025 @11:18AM (#44865125)
People have every right to resist with maximum force to being taken without due process to a camp where they will disappear off the grid and paperwork system.
Re:Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Pa... by dlachausse on Monday August 11, 2025 @11:32AM (#44865307)
Nations have every right to defend their sovereignty and to detain and deport people that are in the country illegally.
Re:Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Pa... by asacrowflies on Monday August 11, 2025 @11:42AM (#44865462)
Also ignoring the large proportion of citizens getting swept up with no due process or legal rights. We even have cases of citizens ending up in foreign prisons and only getting returned after extensive legal battles lead by Congress members... The average poor us citizen with no PR or viral marketing .... is just disappeared
Re:Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Pa... by dlachausse on Monday August 11, 2025 @02:08PM (#44867424)
> large proportion of citizens getting swept up with no due process or legal rights

Can you give me a few examples of this? I can’t find evidence to support what you’re saying here.

> We even have cases of citizens ending up in foreign prisons and only getting returned after extensive legal battles lead by Congress members

Are you referring to the “Maryland man” here? Kilmar Abrego Garcia is not a US citizen.

Re:Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Pa... by asacrowflies on Monday August 11, 2025 @11:36AM (#44865373)
Constitution seems to disagree in plainly self evident English ...
Re:Flock Now Using AI to Report to Police If Our Movement Pa... by dlachausse on Monday August 11, 2025 @11:41AM (#44865445)
Which section of the Constitution are you referring to?