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Re:Cursor CLI by ribeyes on Thursday August 07, 2025 @08:26PM (#44832041)
i'm betting on cursor being the long-term best toolset.

1. with tight integration between cli, background agent, ide, github apps (e.g. bugbot), cursor will accommodate the end-to-end developer experience.

2. as frontier models internalize task routing, there won't be much that feels special about claude code anymore.

3. we should always promote low switching costs between model providers (by supporting independent companies), keeping incentives toward improving the models not ui/data/network lock-in.

Re:Cursor CLI by blueblisters on Thursday August 07, 2025 @11:15PM (#44833017)
> we should always promote low switching costs between model providers (by supporting independent companies), keeping incentives toward improving the models not ui/data/network lock-in

You’re underestimating the dollars at play here. With cursor routing all your tokens, they will become a foundation model play sooner than you may think

Re:Cursor CLI by TechDebtDevin on Thursday August 07, 2025 @11:29PM (#44833090)
You're allowing them to train on your code?
Re:Cursor CLI by blueblisters on Thursday August 07, 2025 @11:44PM (#44833171)
The code isn’t the valuable part. They know all the most common workflows and failure modes, allowing them to create better environments for training agentic models
Re:Cursor CLI by TechDebtDevin on Friday August 08, 2025 @09:16AM (#44836603)
They can't build a foundation model with that.
Re:Cursor CLI by postalcoder on Thursday August 07, 2025 @09:20PM (#44832364)
i’d respectfully bet against this.

cursor and 3rd party tools will, unless they make their own superior foundation model, will always have to fight the higher marginal cost battle. This is particularly bad insofar that they offer fixed pricing subscriptions. That means they’re going to have to employ more context saving tricks which are at odds with better performance.

If the cost economics result in Cursor holding, say, 20% fewer tokens in context versus model-provider coding agents, they will necessarily get worse performance, all things equal.

Unless Cursor offers something dramatically different outside of the basic agentic coding stack it’s hard to see why the market will converge to cursor.

Re:Cursor CLI by ramoz on Thursday August 07, 2025 @08:49PM (#44832180)
Happy to short that bet as I think agentic harnesses will be molded along the RL training of the actual model. Tony + the suit created together. Why Claude in Claude Code became existential for Cursor, why cursor moved quick to go agentic and build up with OpenAI in big header line way here.

Unless they pair up with OpenAI or Meta.