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Re:“No tax on tips” is an industry plant by atmavatar on Thursday July 31, 2025 @08:05PM (#44751639)
Peak tip cynicism is when you're at an upscale restaurant where the wait staff are obviously being paid more than minimum wage, the bill automatically includes a gratuity (often 18% or more), and then on top of that, there's a line to include another tip.
Re:“No tax on tips” is an industry plant by 8n4vidtmkvmk on Thursday July 31, 2025 @09:02PM (#44751949)
It's not a "tip" if it's included. Biggest scam ever.
Re:“No tax on tips” is an industry plant by the_snooze on Thursday July 31, 2025 @10:02PM (#44752306)
Any fee or surcharge beyond the listed menu prices and associated taxes are a tip as far as I'm concerned.

If the restaurant is going to be shady and unilaterally introduce confusion to an already confusing norm, then I consider that norm voided and fair game for any interpretation.

Re:“No tax on tips” is an industry plant by TylerE on Friday August 01, 2025 @03:41AM (#44754024)
Upscale restaurants that tip is often being split 5 or 6 ways... not just the primary server, but also the bartender, sommelier, food runners, etc.
Re:“No tax on tips” is an industry plant by Lu2025 on Friday August 01, 2025 @11:03AM (#44757846)
Another peak of cynicism is that the owners try to argue that the "service charge" is legally not a tip so it doesn't need to be distributed to workers.