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Re:Microsoft Introduces 'Copilot Mode' in Edge by surgical_fire on Tuesday July 29, 2025 @01:26PM (#44726065)
> normies get annoyed quickly because they expect it to work like deterministic software

In very few use cases it is acceptable to have non-deterministic result for computation tasks. It does not matter if you are a normie or an advanced user.

Re:Microsoft Introduces 'Copilot Mode' in Edge by dotancohen on Tuesday July 29, 2025 @02:16PM (#44726632)
Normal people don't understand what the word deterministic is, nor do they really expect their software to produce deterministic results. For one thing, they're not running the operation multiple times and comparing the outputs. For another, if they give the same task to three different people they're going to get three different results anyway, so what does it matter if the computer gives three different results, if they even notice.
Re:Microsoft Introduces 'Copilot Mode' in Edge by surgical_fire on Tuesday July 29, 2025 @02:20PM (#44726676)
> Normal people don't understand what the word deterministic is

I would argue that they implicitly do, as any user expects the same action performed on a computer or similar system to provide the same outcome.

> For another, if they give the same task to three different people they're going to get three different results

Give the same three tasks to a single user to be executed three times separately, and he will get supremely annoyed if his actions do not give him the same results.

Re:Microsoft Introduces 'Copilot Mode' in Edge by bigstrat2003 on Tuesday July 29, 2025 @05:27PM (#44728448)
Not even implicitly understand. A layman is perfectly capable of understanding what deterministic behavior is, and claiming otherwise is just condescension.
Re:Microsoft Introduces 'Copilot Mode' in Edge by dotancohen on Wednesday July 30, 2025 @12:15AM (#44730851)
Then you and I work with very different people. Here it seems "reset it and try again" is considered a viable problem solving technique.
Re:Microsoft Introduces 'Copilot Mode' in Edge by surgical_fire on Wednesday July 30, 2025 @12:34PM (#44736364)
It sometimes is, as resetting may clean some dirty state. Even when people don't really understand why they are doing it, and are merely following trends they saw elsewhere, it does not invalidate the point.
Re:Microsoft Introduces 'Copilot Mode' in Edge by fn-mote on Tuesday July 29, 2025 @05:25PM (#44728424)
I think “normal” (non-computer) people have a mental model for computing that is more like a (possibly bad) coworker.

They would quickly adapt to “reload it a few times if it doesn’t work right away”.

Isn’t this what people are already doing when they browse the web? I know I am.

Re:Microsoft Introduces 'Copilot Mode' in Edge by izacus on Tuesday July 29, 2025 @06:34PM (#44729039)
What are you basing those claims on?