Re:‘I witnessed war crimes’ in Gaza – former worker at GHF a...
by csallen on Tuesday July 29, 2025 @03:40AM
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Ideology is basically the opposite of nuance.
Re:‘I witnessed war crimes’ in Gaza – former worker at GHF a...
by aqme28 on Tuesday July 29, 2025 @04:10AM
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I see your point, but it can also be frustrating when people “both-sides” every atrocity. It’s sort of like saying “All Lives Matter” at every police shooting.
Re:‘I witnessed war crimes’ in Gaza – former worker at GHF a...
by josephg on Tuesday July 29, 2025 @06:11AM
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I guess. But, the conflict in the middle east is insanely complex. Anyone claiming you can simplify the situation into "good guys" vs "bad guys" just doesn't understand the history of the region. Or they're lying about it, because they want a sports team.
> It’s sort of like saying “All Lives Matter” at every police shooting.
Eh. I hear that as a less articulate, more annoying way to say "I care more generally about police violence more than police violence against black people, specifically." Seems reasonable to me, even if people bring it up in an oblique way.
Re:‘I witnessed war crimes’ in Gaza – former worker at GHF a...
by vharuck on Tuesday July 29, 2025 @02:58PM
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It's less "both sides" and more "two of the four sides." There is Hamas, the weak but fanatical terrorist organization, the powerful and cruel ruling Israeli administration and military, the Palestinian citizens struggling to survive, and the Israeli citizens. The latter two are mostly not committing crimes against humanity¹. By the laws of war Israel signed into, civilians should be protected. Civilians are not parties in a war
1: The violent Israeli settlers, if certain accounts are true, are committing crimes against humanity. But you can't punish every Israeli just because they share nationality with a criminal. Just like we shouldn't starve Palestinians who live in the same area as Hamas.
Re:‘I witnessed war crimes’ in Gaza – former worker at GHF a...
by aqme28 on Wednesday July 30, 2025 @06:10AM
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I haven't seen any proposal that seeks to punish regular Israeli citizens. Is there anything specific you're referring to?
Re:‘I witnessed war crimes’ in Gaza – former worker at GHF a...
by vharuck on Wednesday July 30, 2025 @08:14AM
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No. I'm just saying we should remember that regular Palestinian citizens deserve the same compassion and support as the regular Israeli citizens.
Re:‘I witnessed war crimes’ in Gaza – former worker at GHF a...
by sneak on Tuesday July 29, 2025 @08:34AM
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That’s how every war since the beginning of time has worked. Most people aren’t into mass murder until
you dehumanize the “bad guys” and make it a team vs team thing.
Look at how many Americans clamor for the mass murder of enslaved Russian teenagers.
I’ve caught flak from both sides for saying so. Some people seem deadset on making an enemy of nuance.