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Re:VPN use surges in UK as new online safety rules kick in by makingstuffs on Monday July 28, 2025 @04:00AM (#44708426)
In a word, division. The UK is so divided that people are too busy pointing the finger at each other to realise the root cause of the deterioration of our quality of life is entirely generations of mismanagement of the public purse.

Instead of questioning how MPs are entitled to a pay rise while your average person gets made redundant, people are questioning why people fleeing persecution should ‘be paid for with my tax money’.

Brain fatigue and mixed signals combined with destitution and desperation drastically impede the average person’s ability and desire to fact check and extrapolate. We are moving towards a society of down and out people living with no hope serving the elite and those with a bit of money behind them.

My fiancée and I have had enough and are also leaving in October. No idea where to all we know is we have a one way ticket away and will figure the rest out.

Re:VPN use surges in UK as new online safety rules kick in by badgersnake on Monday July 28, 2025 @04:27AM (#44708571)
MPs pay is a drop in a bucket there are many better things to question than that.
Re:VPN use surges in UK as new online safety rules kick in by makingstuffs on Monday July 28, 2025 @04:32AM (#44708611)
It’s an example, it’s not a mutually exclusive situation. The point is that people are busy pointing the finger at each other instead of the people whom are paid to actually improve their lives.
Re:VPN use surges in UK as new online safety rules kick in by fennecbutt on Monday July 28, 2025 @05:03AM (#44708811)
>people are questioning why people fleeing persecution

Except many of them are not, they are economic migrants. And some have even realised that claiming that they're persecuted for lgbt reasons is an instant in - there was a case with a guy (with a wife and a bunch of children) that claimed to have written a pro lgbt article and now he's persecuted.

As a gay man the thought of that sickens me, economic migrants using who I am as a shortcut to entry, I have no problem at all with genuinely lgbt individuals seeking refugee status; we're still persecuted in so many places and there's not enough of us to make change happen in those places.

But the economic migrants...all they're doing is ensuring their home country never improves and that a steady stream of migrants continues into Europe. It'll never end.

Re:VPN use surges in UK as new online safety rules kick in by rubyAce on Monday July 28, 2025 @05:46AM (#44709064)
> Instead of questioning how MPs are entitled to a pay rise while your average person gets made redundant, people are questioning why people fleeing persecution should ‘be paid for with my tax money’.

Your misstating their concerns. I don't know whether you are misinformed or doing so deliberately.

The migrants on the boats are not people fleeing persecution. Firstly these boats are coming from France. Are you claiming that France is persecuting people?

Secondly. I have a relative that work in social services. They do age assessments. These men claim they are children. It takes time to do these age assessments to take place and process and while that is happening they have to be housed. Since they claim they are children, they have to be put into foster homes. So foster homes are forced to take strange men, while an age assessment is taking place. This is an obvious risk to the actual children housed there.

These migrants talk to each other and have worked out that if register with Counties outside of London it will take longer for them to be found out, because the local authorities in these counties have less resources to process them. One of these men admitted as much over the phone.

Things like this are what people are unhappy about. They don't have an issue with legitimate asylum claims. People aren't divided on this issue BTW.

Re:VPN use surges in UK as new online safety rules kick in by johnisgood on Monday July 28, 2025 @01:00PM (#44712785)
What about the "obviously not a kid" types? Please tell me you can at the very least estimate.
Re:VPN use surges in UK as new online safety rules kick in by MisterTea on Monday July 28, 2025 @02:38PM (#44713841)
> What about the "obviously not a kid" types?

In my high school drivers ed there was a kid who looked like he was in his 20's with a full thick beard, stocky muscular build, deep voice. I thought he got left back a bunch but turns out he was my age - 16. So "obviously not a kid" doesn't really work and potentially puts people at risk.

Re:VPN use surges in UK as new online safety rules kick in by johnisgood on Wednesday July 30, 2025 @08:47AM (#44733529)
So how do you guys verify it without any documents? Bones style?
Re:VPN use surges in UK as new online safety rules kick in by Dylan16807 on Monday July 28, 2025 @08:51PM (#44717706)
> The migrants on the boats are not people fleeing persecution. Firstly these boats are coming from France. Are you claiming that France is persecuting people?

So do you think that after you get a couple miles away from something, you're no longer fleeing it when you keep going? An argument like this doesn't make you sound very credible.

> These men claim they are children.

What percent of the migrants are you talking about here?

Re:VPN use surges in UK as new online safety rules kick in by tomhow on Tuesday July 29, 2025 @02:08AM (#44719611)
> Your misstating their concerns. I don't know whether you are misinformed or doing so deliberately.

Assume good faith.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:VPN use surges in UK as new online safety rules kick in by qweiopqweiop on Monday July 28, 2025 @11:06AM (#44711611)
I recommend you go, but I bet good money you'll see that the UKs problems aren't remotely unique.
Re:VPN use surges in UK as new online safety rules kick in by pjc50 on Monday July 28, 2025 @11:50AM (#44712049)
> No idea where to all we know is we have a one way ticket away and will figure the rest out.

You'll probably find how few places let you in as economic migrants.

Re:VPN use surges in UK as new online safety rules kick in by jahewson on Monday July 28, 2025 @04:40PM (#44715339)
^^^ This is such a great example of the deranged elitist groupthink that dominates the UK’s national discourse.

Holding the door open for fake asylum seekers costing billions while his fellow countrymen are laid off, and pointing the finger at MPs taking a few million between them.

Re:VPN use surges in UK as new online safety rules kick in by Dylan16807 on Monday July 28, 2025 @08:45PM (#44717667)
What the hell is your definition of "elitist"?
Re:VPN use surges in UK as new online safety rules kick in by jahewson on Tuesday July 29, 2025 @03:39AM (#44720259)
In the U.K. it means taking all your thinking cues from the intellectual elite that orbit Oxford and Cambridge. The sort of people that typically end up as BBC presenters and professors. Viewing yourself as a member of a distinct group of intellectuals that “get it”.
Re:VPN use surges in UK as new online safety rules kick in by makingstuffs on Wednesday July 30, 2025 @01:02PM (#44736699)
Yeah, I’m from a council estate, mate…

Edit: there is no need to be jumping to stark conclusions which only add to the division being spread throughout the world.

If you disagree that’s fine but it’s quite telling that your response isn’t well thought out or based on any logical argument