Re:Linux and Secure Boot certificate expiration
by ChocolateGod on Friday July 18, 2025 @04:13AM
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Re:Linux and Secure Boot certificate expiration
by account42 on Friday July 18, 2025 @07:30AM
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The idea that MS should be able make orders that distros then have to follow is insane. If MS breaks something it absolutely is their fault.
Re:Linux and Secure Boot certificate expiration
by ChocolateGod on Sunday July 20, 2025 @05:41AM
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No it's not. Microsoft has to disable outdated and vulnerable signed bootloaders to stop them being used for secure boot bypasses. Microsoft worked with RH to get things updated which they did, it's just distros for caught slacking and were shipping an outdated vulnerable boot loader.
I know it's the norm to bash Microsoft and they do a lot of crappy things, but in this case it was just certain distros not taking security updates seriously, which is why a lot never broke (such as Fedora)
Re:Linux and Secure Boot certificate expiration
by noAnswer on Friday July 18, 2025 @07:33AM
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So Windows installs something that brakes Linux boot. How are you supposed to boot Linux to install a fix? Am I expected to reboot into a different OS twice a day and check for updates? Am I slacking for not doing so?!
Re:Linux and Secure Boot certificate expiration
by ChocolateGod on Sunday July 20, 2025 @05:43AM
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No, Windows updated a UEFI component that disables outdated and vulnerable bootloaders to stop them being used as secure boot bypasses.
Re:Linux and Secure Boot certificate expiration
by blkhawk on Friday July 18, 2025 @04:09AM
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As a Linux-only gamer since 2019 I wonder what kids games you are talking about?
Re:Linux and Secure Boot certificate expiration
by repstosb on Friday July 18, 2025 @04:44AM
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There are things like Roblox that are really only usable under Windows due to a perverse idea of what "anti-cheat" should look like.
Re:Linux and Secure Boot certificate expiration
by pbhjpbhj on Friday July 18, 2025 @09:08AM
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I can confirm Sober works really well, possibly slightly smoother than the Windows client.
I couldn't get it to run via Proton/Wine at all.
Re:Linux and Secure Boot certificate expiration
by blkhawk on Friday July 18, 2025 @05:52AM
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ah, I almost mentioned roblox but checking protondb it has gold status. So it should work?
Re:Linux and Secure Boot certificate expiration
by pbhjpbhj on Friday July 18, 2025 @09:22AM
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I've stopped trying to fight to install things on Linux. Anything with kernel level anticheat it seems is torment. They okay Fortnite, and quite a bit of Marvel Rivals (which initially worked, then stopped, I see reports suggesting it's working again but I don't have time to be full-time support to keep things running smoothly).
We do use Kubuntu for games that run in it without drama - Risk of Rain, Roblox (via Sober), browser games, CS2.
They also are expected to use Microsoft Office for school (UK), it's possible to work that online, but the experience is worse, slower, more prone to issues it seems.
Fwiw, I've been a Linux distro user for decades and was Linux only until the first child got to highschool. Microsoft's "educational" policy works for them!
Still on Windows only for kids games. Linux user since last millennium.