Why my p(doom) has risen, dramatically

Re:Why my p(doom) has risen, dramatically by lijok on Tuesday July 15, 2025 @04:26PM (#44575467)

p(doom) is 100% and it's silly to think it's anything less. As soon as anyone figures out how to build SI, all it takes is one person to run off with the secret sauce and build a malevolent version of it.

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Re:Why my p(doom) has risen, dramatically by pasquinelli on Tuesday July 15, 2025 @04:30PM (#44575500)

i won't use the term p(doom), but i agree that the human race is "doomed" in the same way all things that exist are "doomed."

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Re:Why my p(doom) has risen, dramatically by phillipcarter on Tuesday July 15, 2025 @04:30PM (#44575497)

Cool. Meanwhile in the real world that isn't governed by science fiction, we're dealing with a billionaire using LLMs to wage information warfare towards explicitly white supremacist ends right now. Let's focus on that right now?

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Re:Why my p(doom) has risen, dramatically by anonymoushn on Tuesday July 15, 2025 @04:39PM (#44575576)

please post about my pet issue instead of whatever the comment section is nominally about.

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Re:Why my p(doom) has risen, dramatically by lijok on Tuesday July 15, 2025 @04:37PM (#44575560)

Replace LLMs with any other source of labor and we've had that for centuries. What's changed?

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Re:Why my p(doom) has risen, dramatically by Henchman21 on Tuesday July 15, 2025 @08:58PM (#44577629)

Smart Phones are a true opiate of the masses. If you weren't aware, people on opium are generally really easy to manipulate to whatever ends especially if you offer more opium.

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Re:Why my p(doom) has risen, dramatically by redeeman on Tuesday July 15, 2025 @04:35PM (#44575548)

could you provide more details on this?

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Re:Why my p(doom) has risen, dramatically by LeifCarrotson on Tuesday July 15, 2025 @04:39PM (#44575575)

I believe the parent is talking about Grok, the Nazi Twitter AI from Elon Musk:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jul/14/elon-musk...

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Re:Why my p(doom) has risen, dramatically by redeeman on Tuesday July 15, 2025 @06:30PM (#44576556)

yes, a most explicit and deliberate happening masterminded by mr musk himself.

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Re:Why my p(doom) has risen, dramatically by Gothmog69 on Tuesday July 15, 2025 @04:37PM (#44575561)

lol I wish that were true

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Re:Why my p(doom) has risen, dramatically by OgsyedIE on Tuesday July 15, 2025 @04:46PM (#44575645)

Eh, AI-driven p(doom) is only 100% if there is no intelligence ceiling around the human level.

But consider, in the alternate universe where we never invent AI, economic p(doom) is also 100%. Humans are fragile and short-lived.

https://youtu.be/b5z5R6xqEG0

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Re:Why my p(doom) has risen, dramatically by lijok on Tuesday July 15, 2025 @04:57PM (#44575735)

That's interesting - first time I'm hearing the idea there might be an intelligence ceiling around the human level. Who talks about this more?

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Re:Why my p(doom) has risen, dramatically by OgsyedIE on Tuesday July 15, 2025 @05:12PM (#44575875)

It is an open question and typing "human intelligence ceiling ai" into your search engine of choice is a good way to see that, but it is basically wishful thinking. The likes of David Deutsch, Judea Pearl and Noam Chomsky all argue this at differing levels of academic integrity (IMO Steven Byrnes has produced the most rigorous work on the English internet), but there is a simple objection.

If you have a single AI that is capped at an intelligence ceiling equivalent to human levels of intellect, what is stopping you from running fifty of them, in parallel, at fifty times faster than our normal human clock speed, as a team?

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