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Re:Apple's Browser Engine Ban Persists, Even Under the DMA by ThatMedicIsASpy on Monday July 14, 2025 @05:02AM (#44557839)
A hobby dev will not do such thing.
Re:Apple's Browser Engine Ban Persists, Even Under the DMA by sakjur on Monday July 14, 2025 @05:33AM (#44558057)
I don’t think hobby developers are the cause for concern here. To me, these steps should be taken for professionally developed services where there is a reasonable expectation of accessibility (in my mind this would roughly speaking be those that are either publicly funded or where the revenue is at least a million euros).

For smaller businesses and hobbyists it feels like expecting support for all major browsers would be discouraging in a negative way. I appreciate digital art even if it doesn’t work in my favorite browser and a shitty online menu for a food truck is better than none.

Re:Apple's Browser Engine Ban Persists, Even Under the DMA by conradfr on Monday July 14, 2025 @05:22AM (#44557982)
It costs 10 cents an hour though.

@javcasas for sure it's not practical if you want to develop with it, I was more thinking of testing on preprod/prod.

But maybe ngrok can be sufficient to test your local dev from the VM?

Re:Apple's Browser Engine Ban Persists, Even Under the DMA by chrismorgan on Monday July 14, 2025 @06:05AM (#44558244)
You’ll only get rates like that if you’re reserving at least a month’s usage.

For small amounts of usage, the cheapest I’ve ever seen is $1 per hour, with a minimum spend past $30, with various further strings attached. And most are much more than that.

Re:Apple's Browser Engine Ban Persists, Even Under the DMA by conradfr on Monday July 14, 2025 @07:45AM (#44558994)
Apple has a 24h minimum mandate so I guess I stand corrected.

But it's not $1 per hour.

https://www.scaleway.com/en/pricing/apple-silicon/

Re:Apple's Browser Engine Ban Persists, Even Under the DMA by chrismorgan on Monday July 14, 2025 @08:02AM (#44559128)
OK, that does look like it actually is only €2.64 per day. Having looked carefully a few years ago and briefly skimmed now, the absolute cheapest other provider I’ve seen in small quantities was over 8× that price.
Re:Apple's Browser Engine Ban Persists, Even Under the DMA by javcasas on Monday July 14, 2025 @05:37AM (#44558080)
Plus moving stuff into the VM, opening a vnc connection, testing that it doesn't show properly, uploading a tweak to see if it improves, testing again, and so on.

10 cents is the smallest of the associated expenses. You are ignoring all the other expenses.

Re:Apple's Browser Engine Ban Persists, Even Under the DMA by qingcharles on Tuesday July 15, 2025 @01:37AM (#44568135)
I'm a very broke hobby dev, but I still do this as a final check.