Re:Apple's Browser Engine Ban Persists, Even Under the DMA
by conradfr on Monday July 14, 2025 @04:59AM
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Not the most practical but you can rent a macOS VM.
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Re:Apple's Browser Engine Ban Persists, Even Under the DMA
by ThatMedicIsASpy on Monday July 14, 2025 @05:02AM
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A hobby dev will not do such thing.
Re:Apple's Browser Engine Ban Persists, Even Under the DMA
by sakjur on Monday July 14, 2025 @05:33AM
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I don’t think hobby developers are the cause for concern here. To me, these steps should be taken for professionally developed services where there is a reasonable expectation of accessibility (in my mind this would roughly speaking be those that are either publicly funded or where the revenue is at least a million euros).
For smaller businesses and hobbyists it feels like expecting support for all major browsers would be discouraging in a negative way. I appreciate digital art even if it doesn’t work in my favorite browser and a shitty online menu for a food truck is better than none.
Re:Apple's Browser Engine Ban Persists, Even Under the DMA
by conradfr on Monday July 14, 2025 @05:22AM
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It costs 10 cents an hour though.
@javcasas for sure it's not practical if you want to develop with it, I was more thinking of testing on preprod/prod.
But maybe ngrok can be sufficient to test your local dev from the VM?
Re:Apple's Browser Engine Ban Persists, Even Under the DMA
by chrismorgan on Monday July 14, 2025 @06:05AM
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You’ll only get rates like that if you’re reserving at least a month’s usage.
For small amounts of usage, the cheapest I’ve ever seen is $1 per hour, with a minimum spend past $30, with various further strings attached. And most are much more than that.
Re:Apple's Browser Engine Ban Persists, Even Under the DMA
by conradfr on Monday July 14, 2025 @07:45AM
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Apple has a 24h minimum mandate so I guess I stand corrected.
But it's not $1 per hour.
Re:Apple's Browser Engine Ban Persists, Even Under the DMA
by chrismorgan on Monday July 14, 2025 @08:02AM
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OK, that does look like it actually is only €2.64 per day. Having looked carefully a few years ago and briefly skimmed now, the absolute cheapest other provider I’ve seen in small quantities was over 8× that price.
Re:Apple's Browser Engine Ban Persists, Even Under the DMA
by javcasas on Monday July 14, 2025 @05:37AM
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Plus moving stuff into the VM, opening a vnc connection, testing that it doesn't show properly, uploading a tweak to see if it improves, testing again, and so on.
10 cents is the smallest of the associated expenses. You are ignoring all the other expenses.
Re:Apple's Browser Engine Ban Persists, Even Under the DMA
by qingcharles on Tuesday July 15, 2025 @01:37AM
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I'm a very broke hobby dev, but I still do this as a final check.
Re:Apple's Browser Engine Ban Persists, Even Under the DMA
by wizzwizz4 on Monday July 14, 2025 @06:54AM
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Browserling has a usable free trial. They have a finite number of VMs dedicated to the trial, so sometimes it takes a while to get to the front of the queue, but it's been good enough when I've needed it. https://www.browserling.com/