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Re:US utilities plot big rise in electricity rates as data c... by phkahler on Thursday July 10, 2025 @02:56PM (#44524282)
Data centers over 100MW should build their own power plants. This is not unheard of in other industries. It's on-site so doesn't require infrastructure upgrades either.
Re:US utilities plot big rise in electricity rates as data c... by barbazoo on Thursday July 10, 2025 @02:59PM (#44524319)
And build them somewhere in the first place where there's good access to renewable energy so we don't end up solving this with gas or diesel generators.
Re:US utilities plot big rise in electricity rates as data c... by bob1029 on Thursday July 10, 2025 @03:24PM (#44524584)
There are also arguments from a disaster recovery perspective. You might be able to get away from the dirtier standby units if you have redundant prime capacity in something like a CCGT plant. Interconnection with the grid would only be needed for black start of the plant.
Re:US utilities plot big rise in electricity rates as data c... by no_wizard on Thursday July 10, 2025 @03:05PM (#44524380)
mini nuclear reactors would be ideal, assuming power demand can be formulated and accounted for ahead of time. On the surface of it, that should be more than possible.
Re:US utilities plot big rise in electricity rates as data c... by asdff on Thursday July 10, 2025 @03:14PM (#44524481)
Too bad the US government doesn't let nuclear technology proliferate and improve
Re:US utilities plot big rise in electricity rates as data c... by philipkglass on Thursday July 10, 2025 @03:46PM (#44524726)
"First concrete for US advanced reactor"

https://www.world-nuclear-news.org/articles/first-concrete-f...

"Westinghouse, Radiant to perform first US microreactor tests"

https://www.world-nuclear-news.org/articles/westinghouse-rad...

"Utah to host NuCube test reactor"

https://www.world-nuclear-news.org/articles/utah-to-host-nuc...

"Oklo named to supply microreactor for Alaska airbase"

https://www.world-nuclear-news.org/articles/oklo-named-to-su...

"New York Governor announces plans for new nuclear plant"

https://www.world-nuclear-news.org/articles/new-york-governo...

And the US completed its latest commercial power reactor just last year:

https://pris.iaea.org/PRIS/CountryStatistics/ReactorDetails....

Re:US utilities plot big rise in electricity rates as data c... by Workaccount2 on Thursday July 10, 2025 @03:56PM (#44524828)
I can tell you first hand that the regulatory strangulation the NRC has is far beyond any other agency.

You think aircraft have intense safety regulations and eye watering parts cost to meet it? Nuclear makes airplanes look like a dive bar of accountability. I really cannot overstate how insanely dense and paralyzing nuclear regs they are.

Re:US utilities plot big rise in electricity rates as data c... by asdff on Thursday July 10, 2025 @03:56PM (#44524833)
We should have been getting those headlines in the 1950s not the mid 2020s. Thank the AEC for that.
Re:US utilities plot big rise in electricity rates as data c... by scarecrowbob on Thursday July 10, 2025 @03:31PM (#44524660)
I live in the west and drive past dozens of old wells and mines regularly. These are "owned" by companies that went out of business after extracting profits, but it's unlikely that anyone other than the government will ever have the funding to clean them up. If they ever do get cleaned up. Ocasionally they contaminate vast watersheds.

How could folks like me be assured that a similar situation wouldn't happen to all the waste from that proliferation of nuclear technology, in which companies just "vanish" leaving a mess for the rest of us to clean up? Like, a giant rotting solar field isn't a beautiful thing, but at least I am not worried about the cells breaking down and contaminating my water source...

am I just wrong that this is a concern?

Re:US utilities plot big rise in electricity rates as data c... by asdff on Thursday July 10, 2025 @03:54PM (#44524801)
Spent nuclear fuel at least has some value unlike an old mine or field of trash or petroleum waste. So in some ways cleanup and management of waste is already economically incentivized.
Re:US utilities plot big rise in electricity rates as data c... by no_wizard on Thursday July 10, 2025 @05:19PM (#44525733)
the difference is the utility function these things have.

If these companies go out of business, there is a market for these things, someone will snatch them up for what would be comparatively cheap. Its not waste or an exhausted natural resource.

Alternatively, you could simply have companies pay a small tax that directly funds disposable in the event of a shut down.

Re:US utilities plot big rise in electricity rates as data c... by azinman2 on Thursday July 10, 2025 @03:33PM (#44524685)
They’re not yet ready for prime time, unfortunately.