Re:GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X
by nsxwolf on Wednesday August 29, 2012 @08:47PM
(#4452284)
That's odd. I don't think I've ever seen this behavior. I just tried it with Pages and the application remained open.
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Re:GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X
by needle0 on Wednesday August 29, 2012 @10:40PM
(#4452653)
The behavior in question is actually very new, as it became part of the guidelines only starting with 10.7 Lion. As Lion brought forth a whole lot of similar behavioral changes (which often conflict with those of either Windows/Linux or older versions of OS X), very few apps have adapted to the new rules so far.
Re:GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X
by akldfgj on Thursday August 30, 2012 @01:15AM
(#4453093)
I think the new rules assume that apps are persisting any (invisible) state across quit/launch.
Re:GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X
by bigiain on Thursday August 30, 2012 @01:51AM
(#4453212)
iPhoto has done it forever. It still feels "wrong" to me though. I guess I understand the reasoning behind it, and iOS mostly works that way (at least as far as a normal user will notice), but so many Mac OS apps - both current and historical - have _not_ worked that way, so iPhoto always seems strange to me.
Re:GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X
by misnome on Thursday August 30, 2012 @05:29AM
(#4453778)
iPhoto is a single-window application - only one window is ever used. Such applications usually (and should) quit on closing the main window. Immediate examples I can think of are System Preferences, calculator, but there are many more examples
Anything that allows working with multiple documents should remain open even with no windows (or unless auto-killed).
Re:GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X
by jarcoal on Wednesday August 29, 2012 @08:51PM
(#4452295)
Give it a try with TextEdit and you'll see the expected response.
Re:GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X
by tuananh on Wednesday August 29, 2012 @09:44PM
(#4452467)
Cmd W closes the document without quitting TextEdit. just tested on lion.
Mac is document-based instead of application-based so closing document doesn't quit the app. it only does if multiple documents doesn't make sense to the application like System Preferences.
Re:GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X
by nspragmatic on Wednesday August 29, 2012 @11:11PM
(#4452747)
You're doing it wrong.
This is the HIG quote from above:
> "In general, quit when users close the last open window in your app. [...] If users close the last remaining document window in a document-based app and switch to another app, it’s appropriate to quit the app" (emphasis added).
In TextEdit, close the last document and then _switch to another app_. You're missing the last step.
Re:GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X
by tuananh on Thursday August 30, 2012 @12:05AM
(#4452896)
did it again adding the last step (switching to other app), still there though - Lion 10.7.4
Re:GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X
by wtallis on Thursday August 30, 2012 @12:18AM
(#4452939)
The TextEdit behavior might actually be the OS silently closing an unused application that implements the necessary hooks for saving state and indicating when clean-up is required on termination. That behavior was introduced in 10.7, but IIRC, can be disabled by the user.
Re:GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X
by mbreese on Thursday August 30, 2012 @12:47AM
(#4453025)
Worked for me... Mountain Lion 10.8.1.
1) Opened TextEdit
2) Started a document
3) Closed document (Cmd-W)
4) Switched to Chrome
5) *poof* TextEdit disappeared
Re:GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X
by tuananh on Thursday August 30, 2012 @03:16AM
(#4453432)
exactly what i did. maybe it was changed in ML.
Re:GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X
by randallsquared on Thursday August 30, 2012 @08:11AM
(#4454165)
No, Lion exhibits this behavior for me. Close last TextEdit window, switch to another app, see TextEdit silently go away from the dock.
Re:GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X
by tuananh on Thursday August 30, 2012 @10:46PM
(#4457995)
how long do i need to wait to observe that behavior?
Re:GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X
by randallsquared on Friday August 31, 2012 @08:48AM
(#4459413)
It's immediate. Doesn't happen on Snow Leopard, for me.
Re:GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X
by drivebyacct2 on Wednesday August 29, 2012 @11:28PM
(#4452786)
It seems to be one of non-Mac users biggest complaints but I love it. I can close my Chrome windows and remove the clutter without having to pay the cost of having it start up again. It's a good-bad habit because then I go to Linux and Ctrl+W all my tabs and then hit Ctrl+T and realize my mistake.
Re:GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X
by archangel_one on Thursday August 30, 2012 @04:41AM
(#4453658)
The thing that confuses me the most about it is when I close the last window of an app, 95% of the screen shows the app beneath it but the menus are still for the app I just closed. I guess that's partly a crossover with the focus model as well, but it's just a bit alien to me. As you say, it's really a non-Mac user thing; I only use OSX 5% of the time at work so never really get used to it.
Re:GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X
by vacri on Thursday August 30, 2012 @01:32AM
(#4453152)
I really don't see much difference in clutter between minimising to the taskbar and having an icon on the dock.
Re:GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X
by Lockyy on Thursday August 30, 2012 @11:31AM
(#4455088)
It's odd to hit the x to close and the program actually just minimizing. Odder still was that when I hit minimize, by default, it minimized to a separate icon to the main application. I changed to it minimizing into the dock icon. But the inconsistent behavior of the x button means sometimes it and the _ button (I can't call these close and minimize on this system because that's not what they are anymore) have similar, if not identical, functionality.
Re:GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X
by drivebyacct2 on Thursday August 30, 2012 @01:57PM
(#4455855)
Huh? I don't think you understand what I'm talking about...
Re:GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X
by samuellb on Thursday August 30, 2012 @07:31AM
(#4454038)
To prevent Firefox from closing, go to about:config and set browser.tabs.closeWindowWithLastTab to false. This is one of the first things I do when I (re)install a computer, I don't like the default behaviour either :)