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Re:GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X by forgotusername on Wednesday August 29, 2012 @06:39PM (#4451833)
I'm confused. You double clicked an application icon, and the application opened? You seem to be conflating the popular hate for focus being stolen due to some non-consensual event, and the consensual starting of an app. If GIMP didn't have a splash screen, there'd be no indication it was loading at all (and it's one big fat app.. several generations of code including a huge chunk of Python loaded at boot).
Re:GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X by wtallis on Wednesday August 29, 2012 @06:43PM (#4451856)
OS X app icons bounce in the dock while the app is loading. If it takes a really long time, a splash screen is ok, but a splash screen that sticks around for a full minute and thwarts every attempt to raise a window above it is just insulting.
Re:GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X by protolif on Thursday August 30, 2012 @05:34AM (#4453788)
I agree that they should change this, but I don't find it offensive, because I know that the GIMP project has been around since it was acceptable to get a cup of coffee while your app loads. I'm just saying, that they've got a lot of legacy code. I'm just happy that it works, for now.
Re:GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X by reitzensteinm on Wednesday August 29, 2012 @06:41PM (#4451843)
Splash screens are fine, splash screens that are set to always on top are not. Important distinction.
Re:GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X by protolif on Thursday August 30, 2012 @05:30AM (#4453783)
The toolbox window is also set to 'always on top'. It's not a huge deal, compared to the x11 version though. I just open another virtual desktop for it in Lion.
Re:GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X by DigitalJack on Wednesday August 29, 2012 @06:42PM (#4451850)
The icon bounces when an app is starting in osx. I am sure there are probably a couple, but normally Mac apps do not do splash screens.
Re:GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X by adgar on Wednesday August 29, 2012 @06:43PM (#4451857)
It sounds like your parent poster is saying it shows the splash screen over all applications and there's nothing you can do about it. Which is needlessly inconsiderate.
Re:GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X by kstenerud on Wednesday August 29, 2012 @08:13PM (#4452172)
acidblue, your account has been hellbanned since 149 days ago: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3790146
Re:GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X by semanticist on Thursday August 30, 2012 @09:42PM (#4457806)
Hellbanning can be really disturbing. This guy's been leaving comments for a year now with no idea that almost no one sees them.

That feels almost like a form of psychological torment to me. I recognise the value of hellbanning as a way to trap griefers, but I do think it's overused on HackerNews.

Re:GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X by ChuckMcM on Wednesday August 29, 2012 @11:40PM (#4452813)

   Do: email pg if you're hellbanned.
   Do: Be civil and respond politely.
   Don't: create a throwaway account and whine about being    hellbanned.
   Don't: create a new account without talking to pg first.
   Don't: take it personally.
Re:GIMP is Now a Self-Contained Native App for Mac OS X by tripzilch on Friday August 31, 2012 @07:09AM (#4459142)
Is that from the guidelines? The whole point of hellbanning is that the affected user doesn't know they're hellbanned (HN appears to them as if they aren't). So they can't do nr.1 unless someone tells them.

This is a great article that explains very clearly why hellbanning is in 99.5% of the cases the absolute wrong choice as it's being used on HN: http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2011/06/suspension-ban-or-h...

In addition, the guidelines can say "don't take it personally" all they want, but when someone wastes my time for 150 days when there are so many perfectly reasonable ways of solving the problem in common usage on successful discussion forums all over the web, yeah I would probably be a little bit miffed, myself.

It's one of the main reasons I keep an eye on my karma score, if it sometimes doesn't go up for a few days, I get nervous and check if I can still see my own comments via a proxy. It's absolutely ridiculous that I have to do it that way, but I've seen people get hellbanned for such petty things that yes, I really couldn't say I never will be one of "those people" that catch the wrong mod's attention at the wrong time before their coffee hit.