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Re:The War on the Walkman by lucumo on Sunday July 06, 2025 @12:04PM (#44481889)
> It’s a lot harder than it used to be to start a conversation with a stranger.

Good. I'm not your personal entertainment machine. Bring a book if you get bored.

Re:The War on the Walkman by mulnz on Sunday July 06, 2025 @12:15PM (#44481981)
An object lesson in civility in 2 comments.
Re:The War on the Walkman by lucumo on Sunday July 06, 2025 @01:33PM (#44482564)
Why is it "civil" to impose yourself on others and "uncivil" to let others be?
Re:The War on the Walkman by Balinares on Sunday July 06, 2025 @02:49PM (#44483058)
Most humans do not think of engaging with another human as an imposition.
Re:The War on the Walkman by lucumo on Sunday July 06, 2025 @06:21PM (#44484631)
Don't be silly. Yes they do.

What's much more likely is that you and I are thinking of different scenarios. I'm not thinking about your average hellos, thank-yous, good-mornings, questions, requests for assistance, short remarks, et cetera. Few people would find those objectionable, and neither do I.

But the person monologuing about a singular uninteresting topic is so universally disliked that comedians have for decades been joking about sitting next to them on the plane. Or the salesman, questionnaire filler, petition peddler, or beggar trying to get something from you. I have yet to find anyone who likes those people. And then there's the chatterbox who just. won't. stop. talking. I think you can fill books with the number of articles written about dealing with them.

The problem with all those people is that they are hard to get rid of once you allow even a little bit. It's far easier to not let it get started in the first place. Headphones are a popular way to prevent that. You can even see it mentioned as a strategy in this thread.

Anyway, those people are imposing themselves. Loads of people dislike that, and so do I. These people are either out to get something from you, or are using you as an audience for their own stuff.

Re:The War on the Walkman by wkat4242 on Monday July 07, 2025 @11:39AM (#44491485)
Yes, 100%. And cities are full of such people because they thrive in a space with lots of potential subjects.
Re:The War on the Walkman by ryandrake on Monday July 07, 2025 @06:50PM (#44495383)
I think these responses represent a pretty narrow Reddit/HN/"Chronically Online" asocial attitude and not indicative of the general public's view about spontaneous interactions with nonthreatening people.

Yes, nobody wants Jehovas Witness, Salesmen, or Mentally Unwell people barging in and throwing a word salad at you. But, I don't know anyone (outside of very vocal online posters) who would be offended if we were standing in line and I casually brought up the weather.

Re:The War on the Walkman by wkat4242 on Tuesday July 08, 2025 @05:32AM (#44498463)
I don't know where you live but here those kinds of people tend to pretend to be normal and use such innocent topics to strike up a conversation. At which point they unleash the rabidly insane side of them.

I've had religious nuts, people who thought I should give them money after making light conversation, hookers, even people following me when I declined to give them money. I've even taken to carrying pepper spray at night (more forceful items are not allowed where I live). Never had to use it but I have been pretty close to it. I don't think it's allowed to use it on people here but when it comes to self-defense I'm the kind of "better a year in jail than a week in hospital" person.

If something happens worth talking about I'd strike up a conversation with a stranger in the metro or something, but on the street I'm a lot more careful.

Re:The War on the Walkman by lucumo on Tuesday July 08, 2025 @05:53AM (#44498556)
> But, I don't know anyone (outside of very vocal online posters) who would be offended if we were standing in line and I casually brought up the weather.

I agree, BTW. It's the kind of thing I meant with "short remarks".

But while I'm not annoyed at such conversations, I won't miss them. They're a cheap sacrifice to make for not having to deal with proselytising and the like.

> Reddit/HN/"Chronically Online" asocial attitude

While remarks about the weather don't offend me, it does offend me when I'm being called "asocial" for refusing to be religiously converted. Please don't.

Interestingly, the 'Reddit/HN/"Chronically Online"' monickers are also anachronystic. I've not just been referring to books as a way to deflect the knee-jerk response smartphones usually get, though there was some of that. But for the most part, that is the implement people used "in my time" to avoid cumbersome people on trains. It works less well than headphones though, so I'm not surprised those gained in popularity.

Re:The War on the Walkman by Biganon on Monday July 07, 2025 @11:04PM (#44496577)
You're one sad, sad person.
Re:The War on the Walkman by victorbjorklund on Monday July 07, 2025 @04:15PM (#44494234)
I think most humans make a difference between wanted and unwanted contact. It is the difference between rape and love making. Between letters between friends and spam. And so on.
Re:The War on the Walkman by tom89999 on Sunday July 06, 2025 @12:27PM (#44482057)
You are the best example of a self-centered homo sapiens. Why not spending time with people you dont even know? I met a lot of people and listend to very usable things for my life.
Re:The War on the Walkman by lucumo on Sunday July 06, 2025 @01:03PM (#44482330)
It's funny. You call me self-centered, yet you feel that you have the right to impose your life story on others.

But sure, I'll admit to writing in an abrasive style. So I'll rephrase.

"This is a good thing. It clearly signals to others that I have no value to bring to a conversation with a random person. Might I suggest you read a book on a topic you find exhilarating? It will be infinitely more rewarding than any conversation with me will be for you."

Happy now?

Re:The War on the Walkman by mystified5016 on Monday July 07, 2025 @08:27PM (#44495864)
You are exactly the kind of annoyance I'm trying to avoid. I don't care at all what you have to say. I have my own problems and I'm trying to mind my own damn business.

You don't have some God-given right to demand the undivided attention of a stranger. That is literally the behavior of a 5-year old. Grow up.