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Re: by mritchie712 on Saturday July 05, 2025 @11:23AM (#44473382)
if Project Hail Mary isn't a good sci-fi book, what is a good one?
Re: by moomin on Saturday July 05, 2025 @11:31AM (#44473444)
Children of Time

There’s lots of answers to this depending on taste, but you also get into arguments about whether such and such is space opera or planetary romance. Children of Time is hard SF the way a reader from the 1960s would have understood it.

Re: by A_D_E_P_T on Saturday July 05, 2025 @06:09PM (#44475984)
I second this -- but, at the same time, it's such a shame that Tchaikovsky hasn't written anything else worth a damn, despite writing something like three novels every year!

His two most recent, Shroud and Service Model, are bloated, uninspired, and borderline unreadable. I guess he's now subject to that curse of established authors, where editors are scared to mess with their manuscripts and trim the fat.

Re: by moomin on Sunday July 06, 2025 @06:24AM (#44479437)
Spiderlight. It’s short, and I wouldn’t recommend it to someone who hasn’t read a lot of fantasy already, but it’s a smart novel.
Re: by lotsoweiners on Sunday July 06, 2025 @12:58PM (#44482289)
I got about a quarter of the way through this one before I ditched it. The premise was pretty interesting but it read like textbook to me.
Re: by gwill on Saturday July 05, 2025 @11:37AM (#44473483)
Dune, Children of Time, Neuromancer and Blindsight.

for "sci-fi" that reads like fantasy, the Sun Eater series is really fun.

Re: by cylinder714 on Saturday July 05, 2025 @11:51AM (#44473571)
I just saw an Apple TV teaser for Neuromancer!
Re: by drexlspivey on Saturday July 05, 2025 @11:29AM (#44473423)
I liked Daemon by Daniel Suarez, I read it many years ago but it’s more relevant now than ever (the story is about a rogue AI).
Re: by elcritch on Saturday July 05, 2025 @07:08PM (#44476287)
I second Daemon as an excellent sci-fi. I also really enjoyed Project Hail Mary and thought the characters weren’t too bad for a sci-fi.

Daemon isn’t about a rogue AI in the sense it was designed that way. Also you need to read the sequel “Freedom” to really get the true sci-fi philosophical message.

I personally enjoyed the sequel Freedom because it really explores the idea of a crypto-DAO like society that embraces human nature to build a more sustainable and fair society. It was ahead of its time as I don’t think DAO’s had been created yet.

Suarez’s later books also build on the themes in interesting ways.

Re: by mrgaro on Saturday July 05, 2025 @11:29AM (#44473426)
Depends a lot what you are after, but look for writers like Dan Simmons, Arthur C Clark or Alastair Reynolds.
Re: by dwedge on Saturday July 05, 2025 @12:35PM (#44473850)
Iain M Banks Culture series

The Mote God's Eye

Anything by Asimov

Also there's a lot of great short stories in this genre. For example the road not taken by Harry Turtledove

Re: by elcritch on Saturday July 05, 2025 @07:14PM (#44476317)
Asimov? Brilliant sci-fi but his writing is so dry that it makes eating a box of dry saltine crackers feel like porridge in comparison. ;)
Re: by ossopite on Saturday July 05, 2025 @07:00PM (#44476242)
I would add Vernor Vinge's A Fire Upon the Deep and A Deepness in the Sky to these suggestions
Re: by elcritch on Saturday July 05, 2025 @07:20PM (#44476340)
Peter F Hamilton has some great hard sci-fi novels like the Commonwealth series. Super nerdy with some interesting characters.

John Scalzi is probably my favorite sci-fi author for excellent characters. His “Old Man’s War” is genius.

Re: by KiwiJohnno on Saturday July 05, 2025 @08:10PM (#44476599)
Yeah I was going to say the same thing. Pandora's Star/Judas unchained is the best scifi I've ever read. Peter F Hamilton's worldbuilding is unmatched.
Re: by aaronblohowiak on Saturday July 05, 2025 @10:57PM (#44477463)
scalzi is mil-sci-fi, which I also enjoy, but not man vs nature conflicts like weir writes about (even Artemis is largely about solving physical problems even if they arise from interpersonal conflict..)
Re: by majormajor on Saturday July 05, 2025 @07:50PM (#44476486)
Project Hail Mary is light reading sci-fi. Which is fine, I enjoyed it, but if you are looking for something meatier, covering broader themes and character development, here's some other recent stuff (there's a lot of old stuff covered already in other comments):

Stories of Your Life and Others; Exhalation (Ted Chiang) - both are short story collections vs novels, though

Dissolution (Nicholas Binge)

Too Like the Lightning (Ada Palmer) and sequels (wordy, philosophical, interesting future society)

Tell Me an Ending (Jo Harkin) - more near-future and grounded

Void Star (Zachary Mason)

Re: by stickfigure on Sunday July 06, 2025 @01:18AM (#44478042)
Dragon's Egg by Robert Forward

It's my point-to book for friends asking about science fiction as a genre.

Re: by KittenInABox on Sunday July 06, 2025 @01:30AM (#44478090)
If you want interesting worldbuilding concepts of near-future international politics, Ray Nayler is your bet.

If you want "sci-fi your dad would like", Scalzi is your bet.

If you want hilarious, but heartwarming deconstructions of common scifi tropes and protagonists, Martha Wells' Murderbot is your bet.

If you want a comforting read, you'll want Becky Chambers.

If you want a wild romp of science fantasy, you want Tamsyn Muir.

If you want math-as-magic-scifi space opera, you want Yoon Ha Lee.

And of course the most wildass mililitary scifi, Kameron Hurley is the queen.

I have personally been going through and enjoying Alex Gonzalez's "> rekt", which is a novel about chilling brainrot.

So, I should more ask you, what is your definition of "great"?

Re: by tickettotranai on Sunday July 06, 2025 @04:08PM (#44483618)
If you define quality as "layered and meaty" there are many much better books.

Roadside picnic (and its less Russian counterpart, Annihilation), left hand of darkness, Solaris are all excellent.

If you want culturally influential, surely Starship Troopers, Stranger in a Strange land, anything by HG Wells, 1984/Brave New World, Frankenstein (duh)

The characterization in Hail Mary is just so damn weak, even space opera stuff like Bujold