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Re:Everything around LLMs is still magical and wishful thinking by abletonlive on Friday July 04, 2025 @07:10PM (#44468723)
I’m a tech lead and I have maybe 5X output now compared to everybody else under me. Quantified by scoring tickets at a team level. I also have more responsibilities outside of IC work compared to the people under me. At this point I’m asking my manager to fire people that still think llms are just toys because I’m tired of working with people with this poor mindset. A pragmatic engineer continually reevaluates what they think they know. We are at a tipping point now. I’m done arguing with people that have a poor model of reality. The rest of us are trying to compete and get shit done. This isn’t an opinion or a game. It’s business with real life consequences if you fall behind. I’ve offered to share my workflows, prompts, setup. Guess how many of these engineers have taken me up on my offer. 1-2 and the juniors or ones that are very far behind have not.
Re:Everything around LLMs is still magical and wishful thinking by swader999 on Friday July 04, 2025 @08:17PM (#44469097)
"I’ve offered to share my workflows, prompts" That should all be checked in.
Re:Everything around LLMs is still magical and wishful thinking by abletonlive on Friday July 04, 2025 @08:45PM (#44469227)
It’s checked in, they have just written off llms
Re:Everything around LLMs is still magical and wishful thinking by blibble on Friday July 04, 2025 @07:20PM (#44468786)
> I’m done arguing with people that have a poor model of reality.

isn't this the entire LLM experience?

Re:Everything around LLMs is still magical and wishful thinking by gabrieledarrigo on Friday July 04, 2025 @08:06PM (#44469051)
Dude, if you are a tech lead, and you measure productivity by scoring tickets, you are doing it pretty badly. I would fire you instead.
Re:Everything around LLMs is still magical and wishful thinking by Applejinx on Friday July 04, 2025 @07:40PM (#44468903)
Are you the one at Ableton responsible for it ignoring the renaming of parameter names during the setState part of a Live program? Some of us are already jumping through ridiculous hoops to cover for your… mindset. There's stuff coming up that used to work and doesn't now, like in Live 12. From your response I would guess this is a trend that will hold.

We should not be having to code special 'host is Ableton Live' cases in JUCE just to get your host to work like the others.

Can you please not fire any people who are still holding your operation together?

Re:Everything around LLMs is still magical and wishful thinking by omnimus on Saturday July 05, 2025 @03:57AM (#44470922)
Why do you think this person works at Ableton? From their comments it doesnt seem that they would be a fit to small cool Berlin company making tools for techno.
Re:Everything around LLMs is still magical and wishful thinking by dgfitz on Friday July 04, 2025 @07:14PM (#44468745)
I will thank God every day I don’t work with you or for you. How toxic.
Re:Everything around LLMs is still magical and wishful thinking by abletonlive on Friday July 04, 2025 @07:19PM (#44468777)
im glad I don’t have to work with you too lol.

It’s not toxic for me to expect someone to get their work done in a reasonable amount of time with the tools available to them. If you’re an accountant and you take 5X the time to do something because you have beef with excel you’re the problem. It’s not toxicity to tell you that you are a bad accountant

Re:Everything around LLMs is still magical and wishful thinking by flextheruler on Friday July 04, 2025 @07:37PM (#44468890)
You believe the cost of firing and rehiring to be cheaper than simple empirical persuasion?

You don't sound like a great lead to me, but I suppose you could be working with absolutely incompetent individuals, or perhaps your soft skills need work.

My apologies but I see only two possibilities for others not to take the time to follow your example given such strong evidence. They either actively dislike you or are totally incompetent. I find the former more often true than the latter.

Re:Everything around LLMs is still magical and wishful thinking by abletonlive on Friday July 04, 2025 @08:48PM (#44469234)
You have about 50% of HN thinking LLMs are useless and you’re commenting on an article about how it’s still magical and wishful thinking, and that this is crypto all over again. But sure, the problem is me, not the people with a poor model of reality
Re:Everything around LLMs is still magical and wishful thinking by troupo on Saturday July 05, 2025 @01:04AM (#44470198)
> You have about 50% of HN thinking LLMs are useless and you’re commenting on an article about how it’s still magical and wishful thinking,

Perhaps you should try reading the article again (or maybe let some LLM summarize it for you)

> But sure, the problem is me, not the people with a poor model of reality

Is amazing how you almost literally use crypto-talk

Re:Everything around LLMs is still magical and wishful thinking by flextheruler on Friday July 04, 2025 @07:48PM (#44468953)
You believe the cost of firing and rehiring to be cheaper than simple empirical persuasion?

My apologies but that does not sound like good leadership to me. It actually sounds like you may have deficiencies in your skills as it relates to leadership. Perhaps in a few years we will have an LLM who can provide better leadership.

Re:Everything around LLMs is still magical and wishful thinking by mattmanser on Friday July 04, 2025 @07:31PM (#44468848)
You've been doing the big I am about LLMs on HN for most of your last comments.

Everyone else who raises any doubts about LLMs is an idiot and you're 10,000x better than everyone else and all your co-workers should be fired.

But what's absent from all your comments is what you make. Can you tell us what you actually do in your >500k job?

Are you, by any chance, a front-end developer?

Also, a team-lead that can't fire their subordinates isn't a team-lead, they're a number two.

Re:Everything around LLMs is still magical and wishful thinking by abletonlive on Thursday July 10, 2025 @10:05PM (#44527771)
I’m a tech lead and if you think it’s a managerial role then that’s funny and you have no idea how tech companies are structured. My input is of course heavily considered but a tech lead is not in the business of firing people.

No I’m not a front end developer

Re:Everything around LLMs is still magical and wishful thinking by nasduia on Friday July 04, 2025 @09:40PM (#44469471)
A new copypasta is born.
Re:Everything around LLMs is still magical and wishful thinking by abletonlive on Friday July 04, 2025 @10:26PM (#44469661)
Go back to reddit
Re:Everything around LLMs is still magical and wishful thinking by ofjcihen on Friday July 04, 2025 @11:44PM (#44469952)
It’s funny. We fired someone with this attitude Thursday. And by this attitude I mean yours.

Not necessarily because of their attitude but because it turns out the software they were shipping was ripe with security issues. Security managed to quickly detect and handle the resulting incident. I can’t say his team were sad to see him go.

Re:Everything around LLMs is still magical and wishful thinking by solumunus on Saturday July 05, 2025 @04:29AM (#44471082)
You seem completely insufferable and incredibly cringeworthy.