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Re:MCP: An (Accidentally) Universal Plugin System by freeone3000 on Saturday June 28, 2025 @03:20PM (#44407382)
The issue holding us back was never that we had to write a frontend — it was the data locked behind proprietary databases and interfaces. Gated behind API keys and bot checks and captchas and scraper protection. And now we can have an MCP integrator for IFTTT and have back the web we were promised, at least for a while.
Re:MCP: An (Accidentally) Universal Plugin System by whitten on Saturday June 28, 2025 @04:06PM (#44407741)
what is IFTTT ?
Re:MCP: An (Accidentally) Universal Plugin System by lazyasciiart on Saturday June 28, 2025 @04:19PM (#44407837)
If this then that - a zapier type glue provider.
Re:MCP: An (Accidentally) Universal Plugin System by Mtinie on Saturday June 28, 2025 @06:26PM (#44408697)
Minor chronological point but Zapier is an IFTTT-type glue provider.

IFTTT was announced Dec. 14, 2010 and launched on Sept. 7. 2011.

Zapier was first pitched Sept. 30, 2011 and their public beta launched May 2012.

Re:MCP: An (Accidentally) Universal Plugin System by crucialfelix on Saturday June 28, 2025 @07:08PM (#44408916)
And to answer the obvious next question: yes, there is an MCP for IFTTT https://mcp.pipedream.com/app/ifttt
Re:MCP: An (Accidentally) Universal Plugin System by freeone3000 on Saturday June 28, 2025 @10:55PM (#44409991)
It’s more useful the other way :p
Re:MCP: An (Accidentally) Universal Plugin System by TeMPOraL on Sunday June 29, 2025 @04:59AM (#44411426)
Minor point but arguably both are Yahoo Pipes-type glue provider, which itself is basic no-code glue thing. The difference is that IFTTT erred on the side of dumbing the product down too much, and Zapier erred on the side of being too much B2B-focused - so they both missed the mark on becoming the universal glue.
Re:MCP: An (Accidentally) Universal Plugin System by diggan on Sunday June 29, 2025 @01:08PM (#44414633)
Then of course we have Node-Red too, which probably is too developer focused (and generally just lacking any sort of focus at the same time, strangely), so also doesn't sit somewhere closer to the middle.

Do we really not having anything coming close to the usefulness of Yahoo Pipes yet? What would a modern alternative look like and how would it work? Someone has to thinking about this.

Re:MCP: An (Accidentally) Universal Plugin System by TeMPOraL on Monday June 30, 2025 @02:48AM (#44420229)
If we're considering Node-Red, it would not be amiss to also mention N8N - which, mirroring the IFTTT/Zapier split, is basically the opposite of Node-Red on the "let's turn this into an enterprise product" scale.

> Do we really not having anything coming close to the usefulness of Yahoo Pipes yet?

I don't know of anything. There's some new products I saw heavily promoted on LinkedIn, but at first glance they feel like IFTTT with a shiny coat of paint.

> What would a modern alternative look like and how would it work?

At this point I think ComfyUI or the node editor in Blender would be the best; they're oriented for different kinds of workflows, but UIs of both are excellent in their own ways, and the rest is a matter of implementing the right blocks.

Re:MCP: An (Accidentally) Universal Plugin System by lazyasciiart on Sunday June 29, 2025 @05:42PM (#44416699)
But zapier is easily Google-able and therefore useful as a reference name even if the commenter hasn't heard of it.
Re:MCP: An (Accidentally) Universal Plugin System by Mtinie on Tuesday July 01, 2025 @06:49PM (#44438662)
Not as easily Goolge’d as “IFTTT” with five characters versus six.
Re:MCP: An (Accidentally) Universal Plugin System by troupo on Sunday June 29, 2025 @04:13AM (#44411213)
So... How do MCPs magically unlock data behind proprietary databases and interfaces?
Re:MCP: An (Accidentally) Universal Plugin System by gillesjacobs on Sunday June 29, 2025 @05:59AM (#44411746)
It doesn't do it magically. The "tools" an LLM agent calls to create responses are typically REST APIs for these services.

Previously, many companies gated these APIs but with the MCP AI hype they are incentivized to expose what you can achieve with APIs through an agent service.

Incentives align here: user wants automations on data and actions on a service they are already using, company wants AI marketing, USP in automation features and still gets to control the output of the agent.

Re:MCP: An (Accidentally) Universal Plugin System by troupo on Sunday June 29, 2025 @07:15AM (#44412160)
> Previously, many companies gated these APIs but with the MCP AI hype they are incentivized to expose what you can achieve with APIs through an agent service.

Why would they be incentivized to do that if they survived all the previous hype waves and still have access gated?

> user wants automations on data and actions on a service they are already using,

How many users want that? Why didn't companies do all this before, since the need for automation has always been there?

Re:MCP: An (Accidentally) Universal Plugin System by diggan on Sunday June 29, 2025 @01:05PM (#44414619)
> Why would they be incentivized to do that if they survived all the previous hype waves and still have access gated?

Because they suddenly now don't want to be left out of the whole AI hype/wave.

Is it stupid? Yes. Can we still reap the benefits of these choices driven by stupid motivations? Also yes.

Re:MCP: An (Accidentally) Universal Plugin System by troupo on Sunday June 29, 2025 @03:50PM (#44415820)
> Because they suddenly now don't want to be left out of the whole AI hype/wave.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44405491 and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44408434

Re:MCP: An (Accidentally) Universal Plugin System by TeMPOraL on Sunday June 29, 2025 @04:58AM (#44411423)
Indeed, the frontend itself is usually the problem. If not for data lock in, we wouldn't need that many frontends in the first place - most of the web would be better operated through a few standardized widgets and a spreadsheet and database interfaces - and non-tech people would be using it and be more empowered for it.

(And we know that because there was a brief period in time where basics of spreadsheets and databases were part of curriculum in the West and people had no problem with that.)