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Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by smcl on Sunday June 22, 2025 @06:27AM (#44345672)
In ten years time you’re going to claim that war with Iran was stupid, avoidable and something you were against all along.
Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by mandmandam on Sunday June 22, 2025 @06:58AM (#44345829)
That commenter also glorified the pager attacks which maimed/killed hundreds of civilians, including health workers and children, as "surgical" [0]; and repeatedly claimed that Hamas were the ones turning down deals [1] in the face of overwhelming evidence.

Only last week they were asserting that Israel's phone spyware industry isn't any different from any other countries [2]. I pointed out the pattern at that point, but my comment was flagged.

"Sure, Netanyahu bad, but whatabout [outrageous lie justifying Israeli war crimes]". It's pretty whiffy when it keeps happening just like this.

0 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41570806

1 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42720493

2 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44266008

Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by HDThoreaun on Sunday June 22, 2025 @08:10AM (#44346215)
The pager attacks were surgical. The counterfactual is Israel blowing up hundreds of homes which would lead to many, many more civilian deaths. If you saw the videos people 3 feet away from the pagers were completely unharmed. I can not think of a more surgical attack at the scale Israel carried out.
Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by smcl on Sunday June 22, 2025 @07:28AM (#44346000)
Oof, I remember tptacek being a bit problematic but did not know the extent. That is grim
Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by neuronic on Sunday June 22, 2025 @07:35AM (#44346035)
I tend to lean on conservative values (not for all aspects) but what is happening in America since Reagan is embarrassing runaway stupidity and has nothing to do with conservative values. It is plainly the opposite of everything humanity can achieved and has achieved in the past. It is active erosion of humanist values.

In 2025, the average American conservative is displaying a level of racism and lack of empathy which needs to be studied by smarter societies. Is there still lead in the pipes of Southern and Midwest states? What the hell is going on? This level of brainrot cannot be normal.

A typical MAGA conservative sports an education which is likely outclassed by a random possum crossing the street at night. This is amplified by anger control that rivals rabid honey badgers.

The entire Trump administration is a deep embarrassment for anyone who really cares about freedom, democracy, constitution and EMPATHY. Everyone in MAGA is an isolationist egomaniac, it is completely and utterly insane.

Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by cbeach on Sunday June 22, 2025 @11:30AM (#44347723)
The pagers were used by Hezbollah as they were paranoid that Israel had infiltrated smartphones.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Lebanon_electronic_device...

12 civilians were killed. Not "hundreds"

Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by boston_clone on Sunday June 22, 2025 @01:55PM (#44348849)
It'd be ignorant to think that only Hezbollah uses pagers in that part of the world, and that Hezbollah would be completely isolated from civilians, including children.

The parent comment says that hundreds were maimed or killed. That is accurate, and clearly contradicts any claim to the strike's "surgical" nature.