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Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by PeterHolzwarth on Sunday June 22, 2025 @01:16AM (#44343903)
By the body of American legislative tradition, no this is not an act of war. In fact, we haven't declared one since WWII.
Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by BartjeD on Sunday June 22, 2025 @04:14AM (#44344988)
If Mexico bombed area 51 with bunker busters and stealth planes, it would be interpreted as a declaration of war.

By anyone. The world over.

If you're seriously saying this isn't war, bombing Iran, you're just engaging in willfull self deception at this point.

Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by zorobo on Sunday June 22, 2025 @05:10AM (#44345305)
I don’t recall USA saying death to Mexico
Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by BartjeD on Sunday June 22, 2025 @05:22AM (#44345375)
So if we change the example to Canada, responding to threats of annexation, you'l engage on the point in substance?
Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by zorobo on Sunday June 22, 2025 @01:20PM (#44348558)
I didn't know the US envisions throwing Mexicans and Canadians to the sea (at best)
Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by dunekid on Sunday June 22, 2025 @05:58AM (#44345545)
Squint a bit harder and see if US toppled a democratically elected government in Mexico and installed a cruel dictator for oil? And shot down a civilian flight from Mexico? Maybe not.
Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by einpoklum on Sunday June 22, 2025 @01:35AM (#44344030)
https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artI-S8-C11-2...

Use of military force requires congressional approval.

Well, in principle. In practice, the US executive does not observe this restriction, or at most - makes a flimsy connection the 2001 AUMF following the twin towers attack. The courts do not enjoin it from using military force pretty much arbitraly; and congress does not impeach nor even adopt declarative denunciations of this behavior.

Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by Refreeze5224 on Sunday June 22, 2025 @02:00AM (#44344201)
George Washington was the first president to take military action without congressional approval, so on the sense of precedent providing legality, it's quite an old concept.
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Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by PeterHolzwarth on Sunday June 22, 2025 @02:14AM (#44344286)
WWII was the last time American declared war.
Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by khazhoux on Sunday June 22, 2025 @01:53AM (#44344150)
We were already at a declared war at that time.
Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by BartjeD on Sunday June 22, 2025 @02:33AM (#44344405)
The point being that under your definition, a thermo nucleair device also isnt a declaration of war.

Hence highlighting the completely schizofrenic bind this position entails.

Because no one would consider a nuke anything other than a war, and the same applies to these planes dropping these bombs.

Re:Trump says US has bombed Fordo nuclear plant in attack on... by alkonaut on Sunday June 22, 2025 @04:28AM (#44345076)
Bombing government military infrastructure (not terrorist cells or similar) is as clear as it gets.

If this isn’t an act of war then nothing is. And that’s a terrifying thought because that means a single person can start a war without congressional approval. Even impeachment doesn’t help prevent war since it’s after the fact.

What happens if a president orders strikes on a friendly country? It could be due to dementia, narcissistic personality disorder, personal vendettas (hypothetically, in real life I trust the US wouldnt elect that kind of person).