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Re:Locally hosting an internet-connected server by juergbi on Wednesday June 18, 2025 @05:37AM (#44308228)
Cloudflare sometimes preventing access to some sites and annoying CAPTCHA challenges due to CGNAT are relevant to the average person.

Full IPv6 support should be a requirement for both ISPs as well as websites and other servers.

Re:Locally hosting an internet-connected server by jaoane on Wednesday June 18, 2025 @06:03AM (#44308371)
> Cloudflare sometimes preventing access to some sites and annoying CAPTCHA challenges due to CGNAT are relevant to the average person.

They would be, but thankfully CGNAT doesn’t cause that.

Re:Locally hosting an internet-connected server by messe on Wednesday June 18, 2025 @07:29AM (#44308916)
It contributes to it, because now you're behind the same public IP address as X other people. You're then X-times more likely to get flagged as suspicious and need to enter a CAPTCHA X-times more frequently.
Re:Locally hosting an internet-connected server by jaoane on Wednesday June 18, 2025 @07:30AM (#44308930)
Cloudflare easily detects that using your discrete external port range and knows better than to show you a CAPTCHA.
Re:Locally hosting an internet-connected server by orangeboats on Wednesday June 18, 2025 @10:00AM (#44309978)
Anecdotal experience (I know, of course... this is sample size n=1) tells me that you can't be further from the truth.

Putting CF aside, anyone who has tried to edit Wikipedia anonymously should understand the pain of CGNAT.

Re:Locally hosting an internet-connected server by dkjaudyeqooe on Wednesday June 18, 2025 @08:53PM (#44314524)
Someone should tell Cloudflare that because it's not been my experience at all.

(now n=2)

Re:Locally hosting an internet-connected server by jeroenhd on Wednesday June 18, 2025 @08:53AM (#44309472)
It's not a direct cause, but if an IP is hitting my website with spam, I don't care if it's a spam bot or a CGNAT exit point. The only way to stop the spam is to take action against the IP address. For CGNAT customers, that means extra CAPTCHAs or worse.

You can ask your ISP for your own IPv6 subnet if you don't want to be lumped in with the people whose computers and phones are part of a scraping/spamming botnet.