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Re:ICE arrests NYC Comptroller because he asked to see a war... by ars on Tuesday June 17, 2025 @01:41PM (#44301706)
This title is editorialized by whoever posted it, the article does not support this interpretation. He was not arrested for asking a question, but rather for impeding what they were doing by refusing to let go.

Maybe he was right to do so, maybe not, but it had nothing to do with "asking a question".

Re:ICE arrests NYC Comptroller because he asked to see a war... by jzebedee on Tuesday June 17, 2025 @01:58PM (#44301907)
Editorializing what, exactly? The rule of law?

"what they were doing" is attempting to illegally abduct someone. The comptroller's "impeding" was a demand to see the one thing that would make their request a legal arrest.

Instead, they arrested the comptroller without even a pretense of the law.

Re:ICE arrests NYC Comptroller because he asked to see a war... by anthony_d on Tuesday June 17, 2025 @03:05PM (#44302681)
ICE agents are not generally required to present warrants. The agent has all sorts of conditions where they get to say no. If you think you’re above the law and can tell them what to do then you’re going to be arrested.
Re:ICE arrests NYC Comptroller because he asked to see a war... by scienceman on Tuesday June 17, 2025 @04:24PM (#44303548)
Agents who are masked and don't have any obligations to present warrants before abducting someone... really are we saying this is reasonable?
Re:ICE arrests NYC Comptroller because he asked to see a war... by lazide on Tuesday June 17, 2025 @06:14PM (#44304541)
Police in general don’t need to show warrants to arrest people. In high profile situations it may be done to minimize political blowback, but clearly that is not a primary concern in this situation (except toward individual officers, which is why they are masking).

In many situations, they just need a documentable/articulable (to a judge, later) reasonable belief that a crime was occurring in their presence, or in other situations that a specific crime had occurred and there was a reasonable belief that person had committed that crime.

Resisting arrest, and impeding official business of a police officer are usually arrest-able offenses almost anywhere.

Details vary by jurisdiction and crime, but ‘you need a warrant to arrest someone’ is an edge case, not the common case. In those cases, it’s also often an indictment or bench warrant.

Re:ICE arrests NYC Comptroller because he asked to see a war... by scienceman on Wednesday June 18, 2025 @04:33AM (#44307871)
That all makes sense, but these don't look like police officers — these are guys wearing backwards baseball caps and surgical masks. Effectively, our trust that someone holds position of authority in law enforcement is based on their uniform and badge.

If we normalize some dude in a mask and a baseball cap as someone that has the authority to arrest you and put you in an unmarked van, that represents a real and serious breakdown of trust and order in society.

ICE agents should wear a real uniform (ICE with their real name), have uncovered faces, and be required to show badge/authorization upon request -- otherwise members of society have to reason to trust them (or people who look like them).

Re:ICE arrests NYC Comptroller because he asked to see a war... by lazide on Wednesday June 18, 2025 @11:34AM (#44310810)
Yup, and don’t forget DEA getting into full on shoot outs while dressed even worse.

It’s a real problem, just like no knock warrants, asset seizure, etc.

Re:ICE arrests NYC Comptroller because he asked to see a war... by anon291 on Tuesday June 17, 2025 @08:27PM (#44305478)
You can legally arrest someone without a warrant, if they are committing a crime