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Re:Paul Oakenfold crowdsources a beat on beatlab by jbaudanza on Friday August 24, 2012 @06:00PM (#4429913)
If anyone out there is interested on working on beatlab with me, send me a note. [email protected].

Currently, beatlab.com is just me, but it is an incredibly fun project to work on. I'm based out of San Francisco.

Of course, It's fun to get to do projects with people like Paul Oakenfold. But it's also incredibly rewarding to interact with young kids on the site that have no preconceived notions of how music should be created, and to watch them progress on beatlab.

Re:Paul Oakenfold crowdsources a beat on beatlab by djt on Saturday August 25, 2012 @03:15AM (#4431341)
Hi Jon, I've been working as a DJ for 10 years so here is my experience from sifting through thousands of mix tapes/CDs/USBs/Soundclouds.

1. If you want to force people to listen to the whole thing then by all means force them too, but it will decrease engagement from people checking it out quickly. 2. Things I listen to first from a song, intro, chorus, breakdown, outro. If you're using Grids then this could even be marked out. If you have a waveform then this makes it easier and you can look to see the structure from the get go. 3. One thing to be aware of is that if music tastes do change (ie non-quantised music such as Electronic Dance Music) then your market could deacrease as I imagine you're placing yourself in the market as a online version of what Fruityloops was to kids back in the 2000's.

Re:Paul Oakenfold crowdsources a beat on beatlab by some1else on Saturday August 25, 2012 @09:38AM (#4432007)
Hey Jon. Kudos for diving into this on your own and getting it off the ground like that. I suggest you focus on a mobile/tablet app next, it seems like a good fit for the product.

But one thing that precludes my own participation is, that beatlab is essentially a walled garden :-S. While this may be a fun app that brings kids closer to music, it's just impossible to attract serious musicians to a web-based step sequencer with no download options whatsoever. The Facebook login doesn't help either.

I've intentionally ripped the Come Together vocals and am going to use them in a way that even YouTube infringement algorithms aren't able to fingerprint. Just for the sake of truly creating something new out of the samples \o/.

I hope you understand that this is nothing personal, it's just the true everything-is-a-remix mentality that's prevalent among music makers on forums, SoundCloud and the like. If that's the crowd you'd eventually like to attract, that's the mindset you'll have to get accustomed to and support with beatlab's features.

Re:Paul Oakenfold crowdsources a beat on beatlab by jbaudanza on Sunday August 26, 2012 @03:53PM (#4436019)
Please feel free. Every mixed down track on the site comes with a download button, but that may not be clear. I still don't provide a way to download individual samples, but that's not because I'm philosophically opposed to it. Lot's of people just "right click, inspect element" and that's fine.

I agree regarding facebook. I plan on offering soundcloud and google logins as well.

Re:Paul Oakenfold crowdsources a beat on beatlab by swang on Saturday August 25, 2012 @12:31AM (#4431122)
Hey Jon. Just to let you know your site doesn't work at all on mobile. The page will load and then redirect me into a page telling me I need flash. I just want to read a blog post an not interact with your site. At least not til I get home
Re:Paul Oakenfold crowdsources a beat on beatlab by jseims on Friday August 24, 2012 @06:31PM (#4430018)
Hey Jonathon,

What kind of projects are you looking to have people work on? And/or what skill sets of are looking for?

Re:Paul Oakenfold crowdsources a beat on beatlab by jbaudanza on Friday August 24, 2012 @06:55PM (#4430124)
I'm primarily looking for design and coding skills. Over the next year I'm going to be evolving beatlab to allow for the composition of full length production quality songs. I'd also like to involve more artists and producers along the way.

Many hit hip-hop and electronica songs could have been composed on something similar to beatlab. The amount of additional complexity required is minimal.

For example, one project is to create another area of the site for laying down vocals over a beat. The grid is a poor metaphor for these kinds of things. The vocals will by recorded separately, and then independently synced up with any other grid on the site.

Another project is to allow for the arrangement of grids into a basic song structure. For example, there should be the intro grid, the chorus grid, etc..

Re:Paul Oakenfold crowdsources a beat on beatlab by mnicole on Friday August 24, 2012 @06:57PM (#4430135)
Let me know if/when you'll be looking for a designer, this looks like something I'd be interested in contributing to.
Re:Paul Oakenfold crowdsources a beat on beatlab by jbaudanza on Friday August 24, 2012 @07:49PM (#4430412)
Definitely. Send me a note. [email protected]
Re:Paul Oakenfold crowdsources a beat on beatlab by rparet on Friday August 24, 2012 @06:48PM (#4430097)
++ if you can, you should work with Jon. He's great to work with and you'll learn a lot.
Re:Paul Oakenfold crowdsources a beat on beatlab by jbaudanza on Friday August 24, 2012 @06:56PM (#4430126)
Thanks! That's very kind.