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Re:Peano arithmetic is enough, because Peano arithmetic enc... by burnt-resistor on Saturday June 14, 2025 @05:13AM (#44275219)
I suspect in the near future (if not already) ChatGPT data will be sold to data brokers and bough by Amazon such that writing a prompt will end up polluting Alexa product recommendations within a few minutes to hours.
Re:Peano arithmetic is enough, because Peano arithmetic enc... by lmpdev on Saturday June 14, 2025 @06:34AM (#44275515)
Oh for fuck sake

Can we not ruin every technology we develop with ads?

Re:Peano arithmetic is enough, because Peano arithmetic enc... by brookst on Saturday June 14, 2025 @08:09AM (#44275897)
Let’s also not ruin every discussion with speculation about how someone will eventually ruin everything with ads.
Re:Peano arithmetic is enough, because Peano arithmetic enc... by ccppurcell on Saturday June 14, 2025 @07:01AM (#44275592)
Watch Adam Curtis Century of the Self. I don't think he set out to explain ads in tech, but to my mind it answers a lot about how ads specifically came to power.
Re:Peano arithmetic is enough, because Peano arithmetic enc... by blipvert on Saturday June 14, 2025 @11:35AM (#44276992)
Re:Peano arithmetic is enough, because Peano arithmetic enc... by smoyer on Saturday June 14, 2025 @10:20AM (#44276605)
We need to make ads cost more than they are worth - here's one small way (what are others?): https://adnauseam.io/
Re:Peano arithmetic is enough, because Peano arithmetic enc... by Incipient on Saturday June 14, 2025 @11:33AM (#44276986)
Haha that's brilliant. Does it actually 'work'? I expect there is more to recording ads than simply a click?

Also is this somewhat not just lining Google's/ad networks pockets? They won't care about even a large-ish number of people using this add on.

Re:Peano arithmetic is enough, because Peano arithmetic enc... by 0_gravitas on Saturday June 14, 2025 @12:41PM (#44277346)
So, this works only for a subset of ads, specifically, ads that are CPC (cost-per-click) (sometimes called CPL -> cost-per-link), this wouldn't work for CPA campaigns (cost-per-action), which only pay out when a sign up or some other arbitrary action is performed by the user.

The larger adtech companies will have some form of bot-activity-detection, _but_ plenty will let it all just slip on by. (I've personally written a Babashka script at $job that checks performance of our publishers, and flags any fraudulent-seeming activity)

Re:Peano arithmetic is enough, because Peano arithmetic enc... by smoyer on Sunday June 15, 2025 @07:13AM (#44281706)
Somewhat ... But it's not just about costing the advertised money but also obfuscates my actual interests with lots of noise.
Re:Peano arithmetic is enough, because Peano arithmetic enc... by chii on Saturday June 14, 2025 @11:33AM (#44276984)
when there's a need to make money, but there's noone who wants to pay (but they want to use the service), then it naturally falls onto being ad-driven.
Re:Peano arithmetic is enough, because Peano arithmetic enc... by louthy on Saturday June 14, 2025 @11:41AM (#44277038)
> no one wants to pay

Fewer people went to pay. That’s the crux. Companies wanting mass market penetration, rather than just accept the natural size of the market.

Re:Peano arithmetic is enough, because Peano arithmetic enc... by tshaddox on Saturday June 14, 2025 @11:35AM (#44276993)
Turns out that it doesn’t matter whether people want to pay. Many paid services also include advertising.
Re:Peano arithmetic is enough, because Peano arithmetic enc... by random3 on Sunday June 15, 2025 @01:01AM (#44280652)
I suspect that in the near future nobody will directly read product recommendations.