Re:Peano arithmetic is enough, because Peano arithmetic enc...
by brookst on Saturday June 14, 2025 @08:09AM
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Let’s also not ruin every discussion with speculation about how someone will eventually ruin everything with ads.
Re:Peano arithmetic is enough, because Peano arithmetic enc...
by ccppurcell on Saturday June 14, 2025 @07:01AM
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Watch Adam Curtis Century of the Self. I don't think he set out to explain ads in tech, but to my mind it answers a lot about how ads specifically came to power.
Re:Peano arithmetic is enough, because Peano arithmetic enc...
by blipvert on Saturday June 14, 2025 @11:35AM
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Might be of interest - new AC series: https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2025/jun/14/shifty-...
Re:Peano arithmetic is enough, because Peano arithmetic enc...
by smoyer on Saturday June 14, 2025 @10:20AM
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We need to make ads cost more than they are worth - here's one small way (what are others?): https://adnauseam.io/
Re:Peano arithmetic is enough, because Peano arithmetic enc...
by Incipient on Saturday June 14, 2025 @11:33AM
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Haha that's brilliant. Does it actually 'work'? I expect there is more to recording ads than simply a click?
Also is this somewhat not just lining Google's/ad networks pockets? They won't care about even a large-ish number of people using this add on.
Re:Peano arithmetic is enough, because Peano arithmetic enc...
by 0_gravitas on Saturday June 14, 2025 @12:41PM
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So, this works only for a subset of ads, specifically, ads that are CPC (cost-per-click) (sometimes called CPL -> cost-per-link), this wouldn't work for CPA campaigns (cost-per-action), which only pay out when a sign up or some other arbitrary action is performed by the user.
The larger adtech companies will have some form of bot-activity-detection, _but_ plenty will let it all just slip on by. (I've personally written a Babashka script at $job that checks performance of our publishers, and flags any fraudulent-seeming activity)
Re:Peano arithmetic is enough, because Peano arithmetic enc...
by smoyer on Sunday June 15, 2025 @07:13AM
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Somewhat ... But it's not just about costing the advertised money but also obfuscates my actual interests with lots of noise.
Re:Peano arithmetic is enough, because Peano arithmetic enc...
by chii on Saturday June 14, 2025 @11:33AM
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when there's a need to make money, but there's noone who wants to pay (but they want to use the service), then it naturally falls onto being ad-driven.
Can we not ruin every technology we develop with ads?