Re:The Claude Bliss Attractor
by johnfn on Friday June 13, 2025 @08:43PM
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Your comment seems to contradict itself, or perhaps I’m not understanding it. You find the risk of AIs trying to escape “absurd”, and yet you say that an AI could totally plausibly launch nukes? Isn’t that just about as bad as it gets? A nuclear holocaust caused by a funny role play is unfortunately still a nuclear holocaust. It doesn’t matter “what’s going on internally” - the consequences are the same regardless.
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I think he’s saying the AI won’t escape because it wants to. It’ll escape because humans expect it to.
Re:The Claude Bliss Attractor
by Davidzheng on Friday June 13, 2025 @09:00PM
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That's probably the cause of a lot of human crimes too? Expectations of failure to assimilate in society -> real conflict?
Re:The Claude Bliss Attractor
by sebastiennight on Saturday June 14, 2025 @02:11AM
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There is a captivating short story, from Arthur C. Clarke I believe, about humans finding a clay-like alien form that shapeshifts into the shapes and movements the human mind (and the human subconscious) influences it to follow.
It ends very badly for the scientist crew.
The risk is real and should be accounted for. However it is regularly presented both as surprising, and indicative that something more is going on with these models than them behaving how the training set suggests they should behave.
The consequences are the same but it’s important how these things are talked about. It’s also dangerous to convince the public that these systems are something they are not.