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Re:Next.js 15.1 is unusable outside of Vercel by Aeolun on Thursday June 12, 2025 @07:26AM (#44256384)
Next has become a joke. It’s mildly frustrating that with Remix’s inexplicable transformation into react-router, there’s few great react frameworks left (for me), I’m back to plain vite with tanstack router.
Re:Next.js 15.1 is unusable outside of Vercel by zackify on Thursday June 12, 2025 @07:43AM (#44256519)
I’m surprised this post is able to stay up on hackernews.

One time I simply made a post about how a page was simpler to code and understand in Remix.

You may not believe this but I had 3+ chat requests from multiple employees at vercel.

Across multiple social media accounts. All asking to take it down or meet and discuss with them.

Re:Next.js 15.1 is unusable outside of Vercel by jowday on Thursday June 12, 2025 @08:01AM (#44256699)
Lee Robinson from Vercel is gonna show up in this thread as soon as he wakes up, don’t worry.
Re:Next.js 15.1 is unusable outside of Vercel by cianuro_ on Thursday June 12, 2025 @07:56AM (#44256655)
What a poor approach to try and protect the brand.
Re:Next.js 15.1 is unusable outside of Vercel by csomar on Thursday June 12, 2025 @08:02AM (#44256708)
You should write about that? Good thing I am out of the social media sites these days.
Re:Next.js 15.1 is unusable outside of Vercel by d13z on Thursday June 12, 2025 @11:14PM (#44265420)
Same here, I wrote an article about why my company chose astro over NextJS and I was immediately added by a Vercel guy on LinkedIn.
Re:Next.js 15.1 is unusable outside of Vercel by nonninz on Thursday June 12, 2025 @08:07AM (#44256769)
I'm not sure if you are implying that you aren't using remix anymore after the rebranding, or that it's not a framework anymore?

Because React Router 7 definitely works as a framework [1] and it works like a charm.

Source: Backend developer with 15 years experience, lately switched to full stack, using RR7 after advice from a very good friend, still getting amazed every day.

[1] https://reactrouter.com/start/framework/installation

Re:Next.js 15.1 is unusable outside of Vercel by Aeolun on Friday June 13, 2025 @07:23AM (#44267541)
Remix still works fine. React router v7? Well, I guess? Ever since I switched that on the project all my types come out weird. It’s not the end of the world, but remix is a framework, react-router is a component. Now they’ve conflated the two, and it just doesn’t work for me.
Re:Next.js 15.1 is unusable outside of Vercel by throwingrocks on Thursday June 12, 2025 @08:10AM (#44256812)
Remix or React Router + Vite is still great.
Re:Next.js 15.1 is unusable outside of Vercel by EspadaV9 on Thursday June 12, 2025 @07:40AM (#44256486)
I've been trying and learning TanStack Router with a new project and it's been really nice, so nice that I then added TanStack Query, and then also added TanStack Form.
Re:Next.js 15.1 is unusable outside of Vercel by ggregoire on Thursday June 12, 2025 @04:59PM (#44263132)
TanStack Query is the best library in the entire frontend ecosystem IMO.

I'm still using React Router tho (as a dumb SPA router, not the new "framework" features). I might take a look at TanStack Router one day.

Re:Next.js 15.1 is unusable outside of Vercel by freeqaz on Thursday June 12, 2025 @07:33AM (#44256431)
What are the best alternatives? Why Vite?

I use Next for a handful of small projects, and SEO was always touted as the big benefit to me.

I can just generate a bunch of static files, copy to S3, and be done. Is that not true anymore?

Re:Next.js 15.1 is unusable outside of Vercel by nonninz on Thursday June 12, 2025 @08:08AM (#44256784)
React Router 7, formerly known as Remix.
Re:Next.js 15.1 is unusable outside of Vercel by input_sh on Thursday June 12, 2025 @07:39AM (#44256478)
Have you tried reading the article? It specifically addresses your SEO question.
Re:Next.js 15.1 is unusable outside of Vercel by ImprobableTruth on Thursday June 12, 2025 @08:24AM (#44256938)
What's the issue with the remix -> react-router transition? As far as I can tell it's just a branding thing.
Re:Next.js 15.1 is unusable outside of Vercel by hn_throw2025 on Thursday June 12, 2025 @08:42AM (#44257094)
I started learning Remix, which was then relaunched as RRv7. Now Remix is going to be revived, and based on Preact instead[0].

I have given up and started learning NextJS. At least it has marketshare, while Remix will never gain traction because it keeps getting torpedoed by a couple of pivot artists.

[0] https://remix.run/blog/wake-up-remix

Re:Next.js 15.1 is unusable outside of Vercel by Aeolun on Friday June 13, 2025 @07:27AM (#44267554)
OMG… this is so… dumb. There’s literally no other word for sabotaging yourself so hard.