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Re:Gnome introducing stronger dependencies on systemd by yolkedgeek on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @03:16AM (#44245018)
Read the news. That's why the maintainers forked it and are starting improvements on their own project.

https://mail-index.netbsd.org/netbsd-users/2025/06/06/msg032...

https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver

Re:Gnome introducing stronger dependencies on systemd by happymellon on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @04:14AM (#44245335)
That reads like someone having a breakdown.

Probably going to regret asking, but what is a "redskirt"?

> doesn't matter which country you're coming from, your politicial views, your race, your sex, your age, your food menu, whether you wear boots or heels, whether you're furry or fairy, Conan or McKay, comic character, a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri, or just an boring average person. Anybody's welcomed, who's interested in bringing X forward.

Whoh. So normally people who talk like this are far from "strong and stable", it's a call for "all lives matter". I wouldn't touch this racist heap.

Re:Gnome introducing stronger dependencies on systemd by bmn__ on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @08:29AM (#44246906)
> > doesn't matter […] your race […] Anybody's welcomed

> I wouldn't touch this racist heap.

You are clearly unhinged. I don't know how to bring you back to sanity, but as the americans say, one cannot reason someone out of a position they have not reasoned themselves into.

Re:Gnome introducing stronger dependencies on systemd by happymellon on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @12:04PM (#44249028)
The developer is an anti-vaxxer, uses obvious misogynistic language and is full of dog whistles toward racist language.

I am perfectly fine.

Re:Gnome introducing stronger dependencies on systemd by bmn__ on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @02:15PM (#44250284)
I notice you choose to shift the goalpost instead of engaging with the central point. The central point, stated clearly and unequivocally, is that the project maintainer wrote he welcomes anybody and does not care about race, and you call this racist, and thus there is a huge contradiction.

I suspect you double down because you are so captured by your emotions that you cannot possibly admit the lapse in critical thinking. I predict going that path won't take you far on HN.

Re:Gnome introducing stronger dependencies on systemd by abenga on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @04:06PM (#44251233)
> he welcomes anybody and does not care about race,

Ah yes, the "all lives matter" rebuttal.

Re:Gnome introducing stronger dependencies on systemd by bmn__ on Thursday June 12, 2025 @01:59AM (#44254657)
What's that supposed to mean?
Re:Gnome introducing stronger dependencies on systemd by abenga on Thursday June 12, 2025 @07:04AM (#44256218)
A common refrain against any attempt to mitigate unjust effects of past racial injustice (affirmative action, protesting against unjust policing, DEI, etc) is that the mitigation itself is racist, and the best thing would be to treat everyone "equally" going forward. Thus the "all lives matter" and "we welcome everybody regardless of race" are the same coin.
Re:Gnome introducing stronger dependencies on systemd by happymellon on Friday June 13, 2025 @02:02AM (#44266065)
Re:Gnome introducing stronger dependencies on systemd by morsch on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @03:43AM (#44245165)
Re:Gnome introducing stronger dependencies on systemd by biorach on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @03:26AM (#44245073)
> Read the news. That's why the maintainers forked it

It looks more like one maintainer, and it's really not clear if his problem was with corporate control, or if he just fell out with everybody.

Re:Gnome introducing stronger dependencies on systemd by biorach on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @04:55AM (#44245578)
I've read some more. He's just nuts. Your talking nonsense.
Re:Gnome introducing stronger dependencies on systemd by henearkr on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @04:04AM (#44245276)
I love the idea to fork X11 if it can accelerate its development or maintenance, however in this precise case it looks like the developer who created the fork has questionable opinions about e.g. DEI, vaccines, etc, but more importantly it looks like he is willing to include references to his opinions inside the project (cf the README.md)...

So, it would be awesome if somebody would just go ahead and re-fork it removing just the controversial stuff.

Re:Gnome introducing stronger dependencies on systemd by ibotty on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @03:27AM (#44245085)
Not a maintainer. A disgruntled developer. And one with questionable patches. Please read the gitlab discussions before coming to this conclusion.