It's the end of observability as we know it (and I feel fine)

Re:It's the end of observability as we know it (and I feel f... by layer8 on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @02:32AM (#44244776)

Lower-skilled people will be able to “do the job” with the new tooling (on a level that management believes to be good enough), and doing more job with less resources also means with less human resources. There is no win-win, similar to how there is no win-win for artists who in principle can now produce more “art” with less resources.

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Re:It's the end of observability as we know it (and I feel f... by chii on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @02:59AM (#44244927)

only if the assumption of a static world, with static demand is true.

the past has shown that this is not the case.

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Re:It's the end of observability as we know it (and I feel f... by layer8 on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @03:08AM (#44244982)

You aren’t addressing the lower-skill part of the argument.

In addition, there are fewer farmers than there used to be, despite demand not having been static.

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Re:It's the end of observability as we know it (and I feel f... by chii on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @07:26AM (#44246437)

some people who used to have a high-skill job will have their skill be devalued as AI takes over - this is a consequence of technological improvement. It is not a right that society maintains a level of value in an acquired skill. They will have to adapt.

As for fewer farmers, that is exactly it - those who would have been farmers would be required to acquire new skills or pursue something other than farming. Bringing this back to AI - artists, writers and programmers who get displaced will need to adapt. In the long term, the massive decrease in costs of production of various "creative" endeavours will produce new industries, new demand and increase overall wealth - even if it is not shared evenly (in the same sense that past technological leaps are also not shared evenly).

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Re:It's the end of observability as we know it (and I feel f... by pixl97 on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @10:50AM (#44248250)

>There isn’t a rule of economics that says better technology makes more, better jobs for horses. It sounds shockingly dumb to even say that out loud, but swap horses for humans and suddenly people think it sounds about right.

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Re:It's the end of observability as we know it (and I feel f... by bootsmann on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @04:28AM (#44245412)

I don’t think this is true at all, its very evident when you see how quickly ai assistants break down if they meet established, complex codebases that do a little more than your average todo list app.

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Re:It's the end of observability as we know it (and I feel f... by Cthulhu_ on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @07:54AM (#44246648)

That's not new though, the bar for software development has been continuously dropping - at least on paper - since the profession started. I don't know assembly or manual memory management in C, but I do know languages and tools that allow me to do the job. Do I steal jobs from assembly / C developers?

Don't get me wrong, I don't like AI either and it's only a matter of time before my day job goes from "rewrite this (web) app from 5-10 years ago" to "rewrite this AI assisted or generated (web) app from 5-10 years ago". But I don't think it's going to cost that many jobs in the long run.

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Re:It's the end of observability as we know it (and I feel f... by autoexec on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @12:29PM (#44249259)

> it's only a matter of time before my day job goes from "rewrite this (web) app from 5-10 years ago" to "rewrite this AI assisted or generated (web) app from 5-10 years ago".

That seems optimistic. It all goes according to plan you won't get to write or rewrite anything anymore. You'll just be QA reviewing AI output. If you find something wrong you don't get to correct it, nobody will pay for coders, you'll just be telling AI about the problem so it can try to correct it until the code passes and the hallucinations are gone. That way they can pay you much less while you help train AI to get better and better at doing your old job.

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