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Re:Android 16 Is Here by rawling on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @03:41PM (#44240622)
> - First-party defaults for all the platform pieces: Messaging, Payments, Photos, Music, Media, Navigation, etc. Every single one of these lets Apple and Google squeeze another industry and forces us into a pit of no-innovation.

Don't/can't Android manufacturers provide alternative defaults here?

Re:Android 16 Is Here by jsight on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @03:44PM (#44240658)
Yes, and most people hate it when they do that.
Re:Android 16 Is Here by echelon on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @03:47PM (#44240694)
Probably the biggest case for a full-on Google breakup. Android being split from the platform components.

A new company probably still couldn't develop platform pieces if that chink in the armor was made available by the DOJ. But if Google were split along those lines into two or more companies, it would provide nice and healthy gradients on both the hardware/OS and the platform/software sides of the market.

We really do need a Google breakup.

Re:Android 16 Is Here by warkdarrior on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @04:17PM (#44241015)
> Probably the biggest case for a full-on Google breakup. Android being split from the platform components.

Isn't core Android open source? As long as you do not need Google apps and Google services, you can use Android OSS right now without Google's platform components.

Re:Android 16 Is Here by isaacaggrey on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @03:58PM (#44240801)
I agree with your parent post but why would a breakup not equally apply to Apple?
Re:Android 16 Is Here by echelon on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @04:02PM (#44240851)
It should! But the parent was referring to Android manufacturers.
Re:Android 16 Is Here by diffeomorphism on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @05:18PM (#44241561)
Wasn't that what all the 2015 antitrust stuff was about?

Manufacturers were contractually forbidden from doing that.

Re:Android 16 Is Here by rawling on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @06:04PM (#44241971)
Thanks, that helped me find this which does sound like it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antitrust_cases_against_Google...

Re:Android 16 Is Here by izacus on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @06:10PM (#44242032)
Samsung literally provides their own alternative for all of these.
Re:Android 16 Is Here by diffeomorphism on Wednesday June 11, 2025 @04:48AM (#44245536)
No, they provide them in addition but not as replacements/defaults. That is what the discussion was about.