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Re:Hokusai Moyo Gafu: an album of dyeing patterns by srean on Monday June 09, 2025 @10:59AM (#44225183)
I never knew Hokusai had interest in these.

Does anyone know if he had seen any Islamic tiling art ? Or for that matter if Escher had seen any of his.

Group theory / symmetry runs deep through these. One [0] of the circular ones made me think of braid(group)s. Not sure what the * operator would be in that case.

Speaking of braid groups Richeson had a very interesting blog post on the braid like groups of maypole dances.

Let me find and submit separately (spoiling a Hokusai story with another story, no matter how interesting, would be a personal sacrilege). Found it [1][2].

[0] https://dl.ndl.go.jp/pid/1899550/1/10/

[1]https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44225324

[2]https://divisbyzero.com/2009/05/04/the-maypole-braid-group/

Re:Hokusai Moyo Gafu: an album of dyeing patterns by bradly on Monday June 09, 2025 @12:17PM (#44226036)
About halfway through there is a pattern depicting birds behind a chain link fence that he did possibly the same year the chain link fence was invented in the United Kingdom.
Re:Hokusai Moyo Gafu: an album of dyeing patterns by srean on Monday June 09, 2025 @01:49PM (#44227048)
So Banksy of his time to do that.
Re:Hokusai Moyo Gafu: an album of dyeing patterns by ossicones on Monday June 09, 2025 @12:26PM (#44226124)
Does anyone know how are these patterns were intended to be applied? It seems like they might be block printed, but the fact that they're called "dyeing patterns" makes me think of some kind of resist or shibori.
Re:Hokusai Moyo Gafu: an album of dyeing patterns by dole on Monday June 09, 2025 @03:53PM (#44228693)
I was curious myself, so I'd think resist printing such as [0] Katazome or [1] Rōketsuzome, using wax wheels. I feel like shibori would be tough for pattern accuracy but considering the craftsmanship I wouldn't be surprised to be wrong.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katazome [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C5%8Dketsuzome

I have a very similar tattered thread-bound book of these style of kimono patterns at home but I don't think they're from Hokusai.

Re:Hokusai Moyo Gafu: an album of dyeing patterns by PaulHoule on Monday June 09, 2025 @11:24AM (#44225434)
The Metropolitan Museum has books of fabric samples for kimonos with colorful and complex patterns but unfortunately I could only find pictures of kimonos:

https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/354838

https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search?q=kimono+jap...

People had kimonos with crazy prints throughout the Heian, warring states and Tokugawa periods.

Re:Hokusai Moyo Gafu: an album of dyeing patterns by 0xbadcafebee on Monday June 09, 2025 @12:06PM (#44225905)
Nice! I haven't seen these before, woodblock prints depicting foreigners in Japan: https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search?q=kimono+jap...

I think this is my favorite, Foreign Business Establishment in Yokohama: https://www.metmuseum.org/art/collection/search/73415

Re:Hokusai Moyo Gafu: an album of dyeing patterns by Beijinger on Monday June 09, 2025 @11:51AM (#44225718)
Is there a PDF Version for download?
Re:Hokusai Moyo Gafu: an album of dyeing patterns by pvg on Monday June 09, 2025 @12:51PM (#44226418)
If you google the title it seems to find some more downloady variants.
Re:Hokusai Moyo Gafu: an album of dyeing patterns by Beijinger on Monday June 09, 2025 @01:04PM (#44226564)
Mostly is unrelated stuff.

An original would be available: https://www.ebay.com/itm/126788233431

Re:Hokusai Moyo Gafu: an album of dyeing patterns by bradly on Monday June 09, 2025 @04:12PM (#44228898)
Re:Hokusai Moyo Gafu: an album of dyeing patterns by uwagar on Monday June 09, 2025 @11:19AM (#44225389)
is it the same hokusai of the giant wave fame?
Re:Hokusai Moyo Gafu: an album of dyeing patterns by Hoasi on Monday June 09, 2025 @11:21AM (#44225407)
Yes.
Re:Hokusai Moyo Gafu: an album of dyeing patterns by xrd on Tuesday June 10, 2025 @09:33AM (#44236620)
And, who also happened to invent the comic art form called manga.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hokusai_Manga