Re:The X.Org Server just got forked (announcing XLibre)
by blueflow on Friday June 06, 2025 @07:59AM
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I'm not going to pretend judging people by their skin color (or any other bogus criteria like those outlined by the hacker ethics) is not discriminatory.
Whatever DEI was meant for, due to its unagreeable practices its unrecoverably burned into the ground.
Re:The X.Org Server just got forked (announcing XLibre)
by jeroenhd on Friday June 06, 2025 @10:43AM
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I, for one, am in favour of DEI pillars such as pregnancy leave and accessibility to the disabled. Especially the latter seems pretty important when it comes to developing a core component of a computer interface.
Re:The X.Org Server just got forked (announcing XLibre)
by akimbostrawman on Friday June 06, 2025 @03:49PM
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that is not DEI
Re:The X.Org Server just got forked (announcing XLibre)
by worik on Saturday June 07, 2025 @05:57PM
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Why not?
Re:The X.Org Server just got forked (announcing XLibre)
by queenkjuul on Sunday June 08, 2025 @12:06AM
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How is accessibility not inclusion or equity?
Re:The X.Org Server just got forked (announcing XLibre)
by blueflow on Sunday June 08, 2025 @07:10AM
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Well, that sucks, because whenever you argue for being more "inclusive", you are now one of the annoying people. Regardless of the actual merit of your point. Its a pretty shitty time to be disabled.
Re:The X.Org Server just got forked (announcing XLibre)
by znpy on Friday June 06, 2025 @07:53AM
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You missed the part "Anybody who's treating others nicely is welcomed." (conveniently).
Re:The X.Org Server just got forked (announcing XLibre)
by larrled on Friday June 06, 2025 @08:28AM
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Bashing DEI, whether you agree with the principle of race based preference in hiring or not, is imo not “treating others nicely.” Think of how the many talented, hardworking, good people who were part of DEI. The motivation for DEI was pure, and the need to address racial inequality obvious: social problems arise wherever inequality exists. It’s fair to move on to something better for the whole of the workforce, notably for example Asians were more hurt than helped by DEI on average. Things worsening, it’s prudent to readjust the current approach to social problems in the West. But we can do it without hostility towards those who were part of the DEI mission and believed in it, or benefitted from it, for very good reasons.
Re:The X.Org Server just got forked (announcing XLibre)
by blueflow on Friday June 06, 2025 @08:59AM
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DEI is not the same as the people behind it. Criticizing DEI is not personal disrespect.
Re:The X.Org Server just got forked (announcing XLibre)
by gfhopper on Friday June 06, 2025 @10:44AM
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L take, DEI and the people pushing gender and race based preferential treatment can go take a long walk off a short dock.
ETA: You don't deserve respect for the color of your skin or what's between your legs, you earn it tbrough your actions. Anyone who disagrees is an intellectually dishonest wannabe tyrant.
Re:The X.Org Server just got forked (announcing XLibre)
by zzo38computer on Friday June 06, 2025 @05:29PM
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I think is good that they don't use DEI. (When one side is DEI and other side is discrimination and racist, both sides are bad.) They do not seem to exclude anyone because of this, and they said they aren't excluding anyone because of this (and hopefully they are not lying). They should include people, and DEI is not a very good way to do it.
I also think is good that they had deliberately being trying to avoid other problems, so that they will not be affiliated with the BigTech and the related stuff.
Hopefully they will actually be able to improve it.
Re:The X.Org Server just got forked (announcing XLibre)
by jajuuka on Friday June 13, 2025 @05:02PM
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Seems to just open the door for discrimination under false pretense. "well their code wasn't good. Nothing to do with their identity." We've seen it time and time again that it's confusing why so many reject reality.
Ah, one of those projects. Hard pass.