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Re:Autonomous drone defeats human champions in racing first by bamboozled on Wednesday June 04, 2025 @06:52PM (#44186421)
A lunatic will be able to wipe out school children playing outside and have little chance of getting caught, for example.

Nice.

Re:Autonomous drone defeats human champions in racing first by tonyarkles on Wednesday June 04, 2025 @08:11PM (#44186981)
I mean... yeah, that’s a definite possibility. If a lunatic has access to explosives, there’s an infinite number of ways they could do that.

The hard part is that there is no effective way to regulate anything in the supply chain involved except for the explosives themselves. Everything else is super commoditized at this point and, other than the props, very multi-purpose. The first significant hexcopter I built used a BeagleBone Blue for processing, generic ESCs and BLDCs for the motors, and an aluminum frame that I cut out of aluminum tubes from Home Depot. Max takeoff weight was 55lb, because that’s the heaviest it could legally take off with. This was 7 years ago.

Re:Autonomous drone defeats human champions in racing first by lazide on Thursday June 05, 2025 @05:23AM (#44189873)
If one is a lunatic, there are easy to find recipes for making bulk (albeit dangerous to be around) explosives.

one thing in societies favor though - sufficiently unstable lunatics tend to self delete themselves in various ways by being unstable lunatics. few tend to be in the “sweet” spot of dangerous lunatics who are stable and focused enough to follow through successfully with a dangerous plan. thankfully.

For example - most people who could synthesize multi-kilo quantities of TATP without blowing themselves up and successfully build a DIY drone to carry it have better and more productive things to do with their lives. at least in the west.

Re:Autonomous drone defeats human champions in racing first by bravoetch on Wednesday June 04, 2025 @07:26PM (#44186688)
Yes, and so far it's much easier to drive a van into a crowd of people. Nobody has tried to mandate tech in cars that detects and prevents such malicious behavior.
Re:Autonomous drone defeats human champions in racing first by bamboozled on Wednesday June 04, 2025 @08:19PM (#44187030)
Can you drive a van into a group of people without even being physically present though ?
Re:Autonomous drone defeats human champions in racing first by tonyarkles on Wednesday June 04, 2025 @10:20PM (#44187762)
Yes. https://www.psu.edu/news/campus-life/story/hackers-who-remot...

Even without vulnerabilities like that, something like https://comma.ai/openpilot could very likely be used in the same way ArduPilot was used in the recent Ukrainian drone attacks.

Re:Autonomous drone defeats human champions in racing first by lazide on Thursday June 05, 2025 @05:20AM (#44189858)
easier than a drone, technically. using the same tools and techniques too.

a van is just a bigger, more inherently stable drone.

Re:Autonomous drone defeats human champions in racing first by eternauta3k on Friday June 06, 2025 @08:00AM (#44199959)
The RAF guys tried this back in 1967 to attack the Iranian Shah...
Re:Autonomous drone defeats human champions in racing first by 542354234235 on Thursday June 05, 2025 @09:46AM (#44191673)
Vehicles are registered and licensed to tie them to specific owners. You are required to provide a identification/drivers license when renting a vehicle. The largest, most dangerous vehicles like semi-trucks have additional restrictions on licensing and access. There is a pretty robust system in place to reduce unattributable crimes using vehicles.
Re:Autonomous drone defeats human champions in racing first by optomas on Thursday June 05, 2025 @12:30AM (#44188319)
Generally, if you are smart enough to fashion this without being caught, you are too smart to do something like that.

Plus, you got a cool and potentially lucrative hobby, designing exterminator machines. Why bother with children at that point?

There are much, much better targets to be had.

Your point on the dwindling barrier to implementation stands.

Re:Autonomous drone defeats human champions in racing first by pasquinelli on Thursday June 05, 2025 @01:20AM (#44188510)
> Why bother with children at that point?

the premise is that the person doing it is very mentally ill. the question, "why would they do that when they could do something else that makes more sense?", doesn't make a lot of sense itself under the premise.

Re:Autonomous drone defeats human champions in racing first by yaris on Thursday June 05, 2025 @03:48AM (#44189364)
If a person is very ill mentally then there are already many ways to kill people in numbers, some of which ways are much more accessible than slaughterbots.
Re:Autonomous drone defeats human champions in racing first by bamboozled on Thursday June 05, 2025 @12:53AM (#44188410)
It's the barrier to implementation that I find concerning and the lack of defensive innovation just as much of a concern.
Re:Autonomous drone defeats human champions in racing first by arrowsmith on Thursday June 05, 2025 @08:29AM (#44191015)
"Most people don't want to murder innocents" isn't reassuring. It only takes one lunatic. And there's a lot of lunatics out there.
Re:Autonomous drone defeats human champions in racing first by tremon on Thursday June 05, 2025 @10:56AM (#44192288)
Then the proper solution is to create fewer lunatics: provide better mental health support, good social safety nets, and a more egalitarian society.
Re:Autonomous drone defeats human champions in racing first by arrowsmith on Friday June 06, 2025 @03:33AM (#44198615)
Well yes, but that's a utopian idea that can never be fully realised. You can't fix them all. There'll always be some number of crazy, broken, malevolent psychos out there. If you don't think this is true then you need to meet more people.

We need to minimise the damage they can cause, and that means preventing them from using slaughterbots.

Re:Autonomous drone defeats human champions in racing first by pjc50 on Thursday June 05, 2025 @08:47AM (#44191142)
> A lunatic will be able to wipe out school children playing outside and have little chance of getting caught, for example.

America insists on making sure that guns are universally available so that school shootings can still happen. Doesn't register. The death toll seems to be politically acceptable.

Re:Autonomous drone defeats human champions in racing first by mensetmanusman on Thursday June 05, 2025 @04:39PM (#44195561)
That’s why only the strong communities with strong families will survive, because even lunatics are cared for in strong community structures.