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Re:Learning C3 by synergy20 on Thursday May 29, 2025 @11:02AM (#44126790)
Rust is way more complex to say the least, in fact it's the sole reason why it still has the same market share as COBOL(https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/). Rust 1.0 was released 10 years ago by the way.
Re:Learning C3 by metaltyphoon on Thursday May 29, 2025 @11:08AM (#44126837)
Tiobe really?
Re:Learning C3 by dgb23 on Thursday May 29, 2025 @11:40AM (#44127139)
I don't 100% understand. Do they really just look at search engine stats?

https://www.tiobe.com/tiobe-index/programminglanguages_defin...

That seems like it's a potentially interesting signal, but the index implies that it is about adoption.

Looking at the index, it seems like Python has a 2.5x higher rating than C and Java. While I assume that Python is a widely adopted language, this feels wrong in many ways.

But given that they just look at search engine stats, one can explain the higher rating, because Python is often used by novice programmers and tech workers who are not primarily programmers/SWEs.

Re:Learning C3 by garbagecoder on Thursday May 29, 2025 @11:55AM (#44127308)
OK, so show us your source that shows Rust has higher uptake.
Re:Learning C3 by leadingthenet on Thursday May 29, 2025 @06:12PM (#44130890)
Re:Learning C3 by hu3 on Thursday May 29, 2025 @06:32PM (#44131023)
Rust jobs: 0.04

Python jobs: 0.9

Seems about right, maybe.

Except there's no way PHP (0.09), Ruby (0.07) and Go (0.1) are on the same magnitude as Rust jobs.

So this site doesn't pass the sniff test for me.

Re:Learning C3 by garbagecoder on Wednesday June 04, 2025 @01:33PM (#44183307)
So it just must be the case that Rust has more jobs because that smells right to you? Even compared to Go which has found a nice niche in networking?

If Rust is as good as its evangelists say it is, we won't have to worry about how the stats smell, we'll see it, and it won't rely on some "Cnile" conspiracy to keep it down either.

Re:Learning C3 by steveklabnik on Wednesday June 04, 2025 @02:22PM (#44183857)
I think you've got the parent backward: they're saying that Rust "should" have far less jobs than these other technologies.

If your parent is wrong, happy to be corrected. I thought it was interesting that we read the post in completely opposite ways, and I think both readings can be accurate. I based my reading on a vague remembering that I think the parent isn't a fan of Rust, which is fuzzy and also may be wrong!

Re:Learning C3 by mahmoudimus on Thursday May 29, 2025 @11:21AM (#44126941)
I hate on Tiobe as well but it is a good benchmark for world wide adoption commercially.
Re:Learning C3 by orangeboats on Thursday May 29, 2025 @11:45AM (#44127193)
TIOBE is an especially poor benchmark if the programming language community is not highly reliant on general-purpose search engines like Google.

Take into consideration that most Rust programmers rely on https://docs.rs etc rather than Googling something.

Re:Learning C3 by dymk on Thursday May 29, 2025 @11:24AM (#44126957)
It's basically just the number of Stack Overflow questions / Google hits there are about a language, it's a pretty poor benchmark