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Re:XAI to pay Telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat... by hintymad on Wednesday May 28, 2025 @02:38PM (#44119196)
I really don't get the sentiment of everything Russia. Russia has the GDP of a province of China. Russia does not have a thriving manufacturing sector. Russia has increasingly less influence or power over the world. Why would powerful people in the US succumb to to Russia's influence? That just does not make sense. If anything, maybe the Lenin-loving Stalin-admiring Marxists would love Russia, like half of the university professors in the 50s loving the Soviet Union, to the point that they'd rather leak all kinds of information, including how to build atom bombs, to the Soviet Union. Oh, and New York Times even won a Pulitzer for praising the Soviet Union by the great Walter Duranty in the 1930s.
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Re:XAI to pay Telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat... by matthewdgreen on Wednesday May 28, 2025 @03:00PM (#44119459)
The "why" is definitely an important question, but it's certainly pretty obvious that views of Russia are relatively favorable among some on the right [1].

[1] https://www.vanderbilt.edu/unity/2023/04/07/first-ever-vande...

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Re:XAI to pay Telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat... by apercu on Wednesday May 28, 2025 @03:27PM (#44119774)
> Russia has increasingly less influence or power over the world.

Russia punches above their weight because people believe what they want to believe (and what their peer group they want to fit in to believes), and are easily corruptible by "small" amounts of money. And they have nukes.

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Re:XAI to pay Telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat... by jedberg on Wednesday May 28, 2025 @03:34PM (#44119852)
They have nuclear bombs. A lot of them. And the person who controls them has little to lose in using them. So we have to be nice and keep that person happy.
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Re:XAI to pay Telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat... by hintymad on Wednesday May 28, 2025 @03:53PM (#44120056)
That's diplomacy? That does not mean that high officials and the richest people in the world bought Russia's propaganda machine, if any, or worse, get bought by Russia, right?
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Re:XAI to pay Telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat... by jedberg on Wednesday May 28, 2025 @03:57PM (#44120099)
Well the side effect of everyone playing nice with Putin is that he's most likely a multi-billionaire, possibly even in the top 10 richest in the world.

It's billionaires helping billionaires.

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Re:XAI to pay Telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat... by umbra07 on Wednesday May 28, 2025 @04:49PM (#44120518)
There's a massive jump from "multi-billiojare#" to "120 billion" (10th richest).
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Re:XAI to pay Telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat... by jedberg on Wednesday May 28, 2025 @09:05PM (#44122083)
Fortune (who makes the list) estimates him at $200 billion.

https://fortune.com/article/russian-president-vladimir-putin...

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Re:XAI to pay Telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat... by alterom on Wednesday May 28, 2025 @03:01PM (#44119466)
>I really don't the sentiment of everything Russia.

This is not a sentence in English.

>Why would powerful people in the US succumb to to Russia's influence?

I have cited my sources; please read this comment for more details:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44118558

>Russia has the GDP of a province of China. Russia does not have a thriving manufacturing sector. Russia has increasingly less influence or power over the world.

Bravo, you're starting to figure out that having influence over people doesn't need any of that.

Russia does have a thriving propaganda manufacturing sector, and invests a lot of its GDP in FSB. Hmm.

>If anything, maybe the Lenin-loving Stalin-admiring Marxists would love Russia, like half of the university professors in the 50s.

They would, and they still do.

Many eggs in many baskets, see.

Again — I've cited my sources; you're welcome to stay wilfully ignorant and be asking the same questions in subsequent comments.

I'll be here at day.

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Re:XAI to pay Telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat... by kurisufag on Wednesday May 28, 2025 @03:58PM (#44120116)
> This is not a sentence in English.

> I'll be here at day.

i hate to heckle, but... :)

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Re:XAI to pay Telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat... by alterom on Wednesday May 28, 2025 @05:28PM (#44120830)
Heckling deserved :)

I'll be here all day, using flow typing on my phone :)

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Re:XAI to pay Telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat... by wltr on Thursday May 29, 2025 @12:33AM (#44123151)
You cited your sources, but they are flagged and removed :)

Because dang them, right?

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Re:XAI to pay Telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat... by alterom on Thursday May 29, 2025 @05:29AM (#44124385)
HN (and the mods) seem to hate nothing more than a well-sourced, well-structured long comment.

The sources are still there though.

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Re:XAI to pay Telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat... by wltr on Thursday May 29, 2025 @09:46AM (#44126089)
That actually looks like forcing their view, censoring you just because they might not like your position. Useful, you cannot do a thing. Your comment is simply gone. I might wanted to save it, but it’s no longer.

Yet, they did not bother to remove my useless neighbouring comment, only flagged it. I’m not surprised anymore. Not the first time I see this behaviour.

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Re:XAI to pay Telegram $300M to integrate Grok into the chat... by Krasnol on Wednesday May 28, 2025 @02:45PM (#44119285)
It's not "Russia's influence", It's the influence of a few but very rich Russian individuals.
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