Re:At Amazon, Some Coders Say Their Jobs Have Begun to Resem...
by SoftTalker on Sunday May 25, 2025 @03:38PM
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The means of production for a software engineer is a laptop. Many SEs own them. There are no raw materials or factories needed to produce software, at least not in the sense of traditional production.
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Re:At Amazon, Some Coders Say Their Jobs Have Begun to Resem...
by Jeff_Brown on Sunday May 25, 2025 @04:21PM
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You could say the same thing of hands. What really distinguishes capital from labor is not what counts as a tool, but market power. A large number of non-unionized workers are inherently at a disadvantage against a small number of employers with exorbitantly costly infra.
Re:At Amazon, Some Coders Say Their Jobs Have Begun to Resem...
by SoftTalker on Sunday May 25, 2025 @04:38PM
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But for the software developer, the tool is also the factory.
Re:At Amazon, Some Coders Say Their Jobs Have Begun to Resem...
by kranke155 on Sunday May 25, 2025 @05:06PM
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That’s not true. The actual means of production are the data centers. It’s true they didn’t use to be hugely expensive either, but now with AI being the backbone of everything we now have really expensive data centers again.
Re:At Amazon, Some Coders Say Their Jobs Have Begun to Resem...
by cyanydeez on Sunday May 25, 2025 @08:14PM
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if we're just going to loop this properly, the modern means of production is the stock market's inflated capital. Most of AI floats on cash that does not exist for any purpose except market speculation.
Re:At Amazon, Some Coders Say Their Jobs Have Begun to Resem...
by kranke155 on Tuesday May 27, 2025 @10:21AM
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Thats capital, not means of production.
The means of producing an AI is a huge data centre for training. Having a lot of money but no chips of any kind wouldn't get you an AI. We had money 10 years ago, but they did not make AIs out of them.