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Re:Claude 4 by shafyy on Thursday May 22, 2025 @05:03PM (#44066976)
Thank you! Everybody here acting like LLMs have some kind of ulterior motive or a mind of their own. It's just printing out what is statistically more likely. You are probably all engineers or at least very interested in tech, how can you not understand that this is all LLMs are?
Re:Claude 4 by gwervc on Thursday May 22, 2025 @05:53PM (#44067534)
This is imo the most disturbing part. As soon as the magical AI keyword is thrown, so seems to be the analytical capacity of most people.

The AI is not blackmailing anyone, it's generating a text about blackmail, after being (indirectly) asked to. Very scary indeed...

Re:Claude 4 by jimbokun on Thursday May 22, 2025 @05:37PM (#44067385)
Well I’m sure the company in legal turmoil over an AI blackmailing one of its employees will be relieved to know the AI didn’t have any anterior motive or mind of its own when it took those actions.
Re:Claude 4 by sensanaty on Friday May 23, 2025 @06:24AM (#44071541)
If the idiots in said company thought it was a smart idea to connect their actual systems to a non-deterministic word generator, that's on them for being morons and they deserve whatever legal ramifications come their way.
Re:Claude 4 by esafak on Thursday May 22, 2025 @05:27PM (#44067268)
Don't you understand that as soon as an LLM is given the agency to use tools, these "prints outs" will become reality?
Re:Claude 4 by insin on Thursday May 22, 2025 @06:38PM (#44067918)
What's the collective noun for the "but humans!" people in these threads?

It's "I Want To Believe (ufo)" but for LLMs as "AI"

Re:Claude 4 by CamperBob2 on Thursday May 22, 2025 @06:58PM (#44068070)
"Printing out what is statistically more likely" won't allow you to solve original math problems... unless of course, that's all we do as humans. Is it?
Re:Claude 4 by XenophileJKO on Thursday May 22, 2025 @05:12PM (#44067097)
I mean I build / use them as my profession, I intimately understand how they work. People just don't usually understand how they actually behave and what levels of abstraction they compress from their training data.

The only thing that matters is how they behave in practice. Everything else is a philosophical tar pit.