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Re:If nothing is curated, how do we find things by baxtr on Saturday May 17, 2025 @05:56PM (#44017292)
I am not sure if I agree.

I feel like social media trough its amplification has lead to a global sync in topics and experiences.

I’d argue a kid growing up India or China shares much more culturally today with a western Kid than 30 years ago.

Take the news for example. Last weeks it was tariffs. The entire world was talking about the same thing.

To the contrary I feel like we are living more and more in the same global reality going from one headline to the next every week.

Re:If nothing is curated, how do we find things by kranke155 on Saturday May 17, 2025 @08:14PM (#44017980)
Nope you’re wrong. Actually media has become hyperlocal.

The whole world was talking about tariffs? Nope. They were talking whatever they saw on their personalised feed.

Re:If nothing is curated, how do we find things by smackeyacky on Saturday May 17, 2025 @06:29PM (#44017508)
Not just headlines being shared, but culture is still being shared.

Sure the shared cultural experience of being limited to a handful of TV channels is gone, but it's been replaced by a handful of streaming services. The world has shared the Marvel Cinematic Universe and 800lb sisters and Taylor Swift.

Re:If nothing is curated, how do we find things by BlueTemplar on Saturday May 17, 2025 @08:32PM (#44018051)
> 800lb sisters

First time I hear of these. I now wish I had not looked them up (I did not think it would be so literal).

(I also now realise that I cannot even remember how Taylor Swift sounds like, despite hearing about her quite frequently...)

Re:If nothing is curated, how do we find things by anton-c on Sunday May 18, 2025 @10:14AM (#44021567)
Seeing Taylor swift mentioned is weird to me cuz nobody I know listens to her. We had like, 10 international popstars thru my youth with the Disney ones too(not that anyone listened to those that I knew).

When I was young you couldn't NOT know the song "semi-charmed life" by third eye blind, or 50 other songs. Nowadays idk if that's the case. Then again, I'm not sure how much would be lost if my whole middle school didn't know the song "shake that Laffy taffy".

Re:If nothing is curated, how do we find things by nonchalantsui on Saturday May 17, 2025 @08:41PM (#44018099)
I heavily disagree with this one. On first glance what you say feels true, but there are so many mega popular people now that you will never know of despite even being from the same country. People with dozens of millions of fans, selling out arenas doing multinational tours and you won’t know them at all.

But everyone knows Britney Spears, even if you were never in her target demographic. This sort of global fame now requires so much more to reach because of how many are really locked into hyper personalized online experiences. I used to be able to reference the latest big movie or show and people would know, now that’s mostly turned into an explanation that the movie or show even came out and exists.

Re:If nothing is curated, how do we find things by CityOfThrowaway on Sunday May 18, 2025 @02:03AM (#44019308)
I mean... Taylor swift is literally the biggest musician in history... right now...

There's still enormously mainstream culture. Even more enormous in the fat tail than before.

There's just also a shocking depth in the mid tail now too.

The problem with movies is that Hollywood killed itself and tech helped. Movies and TV just suck now, for the most part.

Music, fashion, and visual culture are still alive and well.

Re:If nothing is curated, how do we find things by riffraff on Sunday May 18, 2025 @04:17AM (#44019820)
I think Taylor Swift is actually a perfect example, it's quite common to hear people say "I don't know any song by her beyond shake it off".

I challenge anyone from the '80s not to know of a few songs by Madonna or Michael Jackson.

Taylor is huge with some fans and completely unknown to her not-fans and there seem to be a steel transition between the two states.

Re:If nothing is curated, how do we find things by yunwal on Sunday May 18, 2025 @04:48PM (#44024221)
> I don't know any song by her beyond shake it off

This is unheard of for children to say this. If you mean adults, there were plenty of adults in the 80s that didn’t know Madonna songs, and even Michael Jackson

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Re:If nothing is curated, how do we find things by rchaud on Sunday May 18, 2025 @11:58AM (#44022282)
> Global megastar before the internet.

Not just the Internet. Before cable and satellite TV, even. Similar to Muhammad Ali in that sense - a globally renowned icon, regardless of cultural or languge barriers. In the west, there is the idea of a rivalry between Michael Jackson and Prince, but globally, there was only one King of Pop.

Taylor Swift has mind-boggling levels of fandom in the Anglosphere (even if it is largely limited to women), but her music is pretty straightforward, there are other artists like her who would be considered interchangeable with her given enough publicity. But the full package of Michael Jackson was groundbreaking and inimitable: the musical production, the dance moves, the songwriting and the music videos.

Re:If nothing is curated, how do we find things by astura on Monday May 19, 2025 @07:52AM (#44028824)
>But everyone knows Britney Spears, even if you were never in her target demographic.

You probably think this because you were a child or young adult at the height of her fame.

My parents, who were middle aged at the time, certainly don't know who Brittney Spears is. They may have heard of her, but they couldn't recognize her or name any of her songs.

Re:If nothing is curated, how do we find things by schneems on Saturday May 17, 2025 @10:00PM (#44018405)
> The entire world was talking about the same thing.

What you’re describing is an echo chamber. Which is what most sites optimize to produce (when optimizing for engagement and). I switch between bsky where it frequently feels that way “everyone is talking about Y” and mastodon where the chronological timeline makes it clear that a lot of people might be talking about it, but they’re also talking about other things.

I feel that one of the most broken things about our current reality (with so many social sites) is that it feels so singular and shared, but turns out that’s not the case at all. My partner and I have started to use the phrase “my internet” to refer to the general vibe we are taking in as in “is your internet talking about scandal Z?” I’m frequently surprised stuff that totally flys under their radar (and vice versa).

Re:If nothing is curated, how do we find things by Llamamoe on Sunday May 18, 2025 @02:26AM (#44019398)
I think you're conflating the idea of "shared culture" with "isolation from other social groups". We used to have more friends at the same time as we had more shared context thanks to media distribution patterns.
Re:If nothing is curated, how do we find things by 0xDEAFBEAD on Saturday May 17, 2025 @10:55PM (#44018658)
I think you're both right. Relative to the past, any given locale is more culturally fragmented, but the globe is simultaneously more culturally unified. We've hit a weird midpoint: You might have more cultural common ground with someone on the other side of the globe who follows the same people on social media, than with your next-door neighbor.

Consider this thought experiment. Imagine you're going to get coffee with either a random person in your neighborhood, or a random HN user. Which conversation will have more shared topics of interest?

This is the "global village" which was prophesied in the 1960s. It won't go away until interstellar colonization creates communication delays and a new era of cultural fragmentation.

Re:If nothing is curated, how do we find things by rsynnott on Sunday May 18, 2025 @11:19AM (#44022018)
> Take the news for example. Last weeks it was tariffs. The entire world was talking about the same thing.

... I mean, that's because it's a global economic crisis. In the early 70s, the entire world was talking about the oil crisis, another induced economic shock. Late noughties? The Great Financial Crisis. That sort of thing is _always_ going to be news everywhere.