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Re:"We would be less confidential than Google" Proton threat... by devwastaken on Saturday May 17, 2025 @02:07PM (#44015967)
Mullvad operates out of Sweden. Unlike proton, mullvad doesnt have to respond to court orders. proton gives up user info thousands a year its right on their transparency page.
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Re:"We would be less confidential than Google" Proton threat... by Batman8675309 on Saturday May 17, 2025 @02:39PM (#44016133)
Proton isn’t giving up VPN users. It’s giving up mail users. There’s a huge legal difference.
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Re:"We would be less confidential than Google" Proton threat... by immibis on Saturday May 17, 2025 @04:26PM (#44016757)
All entities with known physical addresses have to respond to court orders, or men with guns will break into those addresses and kidnap whoever is supposed to have responded.
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Re:"We would be less confidential than Google" Proton threat... by KomoD on Saturday May 17, 2025 @07:19PM (#44017721)
Correction:they do in fact have to respond to court orders, but they can't give any info as they simply do not have it.
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Re:"We would be less confidential than Google" Proton threat... by ignoramous on Saturday May 17, 2025 @07:31PM (#44017777)
Mullvad stores account (kyc) + payment information in line with Swedish tax laws for (I think) 7 years.

What Mullvad apparently don't have are data-plane logs. But then, surveillance laws mandate forceful & secret compliance in certain cases (Mullvad may be exempt but who knows: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43018290)

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Re:"We would be less confidential than Google" Proton threat... by LMYahooTFY on Sunday May 18, 2025 @02:49AM (#44019493)
Doesn't Mullvad accept cash without identifying information?
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Re:"We would be less confidential than Google" Proton threat... by eagleislandsong on Sunday May 18, 2025 @03:42PM (#44023836)
Yes, they do. They accept Monero too.
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