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Re:Explaining British Naval Dominance During the Age of Sail by sklargh on Friday May 16, 2025 @11:00AM (#44006324)
My first time hearing 5.56 fire when I incidentally had ear pro off was shocking. Cannot imagine what a gun deck was like in the age of sail.
Re:Explaining British Naval Dominance During the Age of Sail by alabastervlog on Friday May 16, 2025 @11:15AM (#44006484)
Gunfire is insanely loud. Even a little .22 is louder than the apparent volume of heavier rounds in most film and TV. It's one of those things people can have entirely the wrong idea about if their only exposure to it is media. You see things like people firing rifles from inside a car and it's like... nobody in that car should be able to hear a damn thing for a full minute, and with repeated fire their ears might ring badly through the next day.

Archer kinda gets this more-right than most things, LOL. "MAWP! MAWP!"

Re:Explaining British Naval Dominance During the Age of Sail by bee_rider on Friday May 16, 2025 @12:58PM (#44007614)
Comedies often are more accurate because dumb things are allowed to happen and real life doesn’t follow the rule-of-cool. See also, Monty Python Holy Grail, and Veep.
Re:Explaining British Naval Dominance During the Age of Sail by inetknght on Friday May 16, 2025 @04:48PM (#44009704)
> Gunfire is insanely loud. Even a little .22 is louder than the apparent volume of heavier rounds in most film and TV. It's one of those things people can have entirely the wrong idea about if their only exposure to it is media.

Part of that is because the sound volume is just so drastically different compared to normally talking; microphones have trouble with it, audio amplifiers end up clipping [0], and most speakers would blow out if the amp didn't clip (especially for the larger guns). And, assuming none of that happened then, just as you would have on a gun deck, your listeners' ears would be damaged. So the sound of gunfire in media is quieted.

Most people simply aren't around guns in the first place, let alone firing guns (eg, going to a gun range with friends/family/etc even if you don't own a gun), to understand just how much media misrepresents it.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clipping_(audio)

Re:Explaining British Naval Dominance During the Age of Sail by refurb on Friday May 16, 2025 @10:45PM (#44011651)
Indeed.

Even firing a large calibre rifle with hearing protection is something you need to get use to. Not only the noise, but the pressure wave and recoil feels like someone just punched you.

Re:Explaining British Naval Dominance During the Age of Sail by cromniomancer on Saturday May 17, 2025 @09:26AM (#44014170)
The first season of True Detective is amazing TV for many reasons, but the scene I'll never forget involves a tense moment when suddenly the first gunshot goes off inside a small cottage and all hell breaks loose.

Instead of a silly overacted action sequence where the hero darts around killing everyone with miraculous hip-fired headshots, instead you hear a sudden jarring crack-FWOOMP followed by an intensely loud tinnitus ringing. It takes half the scene for the ringing to slowly clear while the hero somewhat realistically tries to escape without harming anyone or blowing his cover, while also staying out of the line of fire.

It was so against the norm for action sequences that it nearly broke the immersion for me until it settled in how well put together that scene was.

Re:Explaining British Naval Dominance During the Age of Sail by lowbloodsugar on Friday May 16, 2025 @02:36PM (#44008560)
Dude was using a shotgun in an indoor range next to me and the air pressure was so bad I had to move. Pressure against my whole body.
Re:Explaining British Naval Dominance During the Age of Sail by jvanderbot on Friday May 16, 2025 @04:16PM (#44009430)
Local range only allows shotguns for 1 w/y (to sight in hunting sabots). That's why. Those things are big.

But even a .270 /30-06 puts out a lot more noise than you think it will. You jump right out of your skin the first shot.

Re:Explaining British Naval Dominance During the Age of Sail by bee_rider on Friday May 16, 2025 @04:10PM (#44009371)
Seems rude.

Is it typical to use a shotgun in an indoor range? I thought shotguns were for killing clay pigeons.

Re:Explaining British Naval Dominance During the Age of Sail by bluGill on Friday May 16, 2025 @04:57PM (#44009772)
There are indoor clay pigeon ranges. Though I'm guessing it was a shotgun shooting a slug which acts like any other gun (as opposed to shot which spreads and so wouldn't be useful at most ranges since you would hit your neighbor's target as well)
Re:Explaining British Naval Dominance During the Age of Sail by potato3732842 on Friday May 16, 2025 @05:52PM (#44010092)
First off, most indoor ranges don't allow shotgun target loads and slugs are $$$ so people don't typically shoot them indoors.

It's not explicitly rude but depending on the exact circumstances it's kind of pushing it to shoot 12ga and full power rifle rounds at indoor recreational ranges. Like don't do it on Saturday morning when it's busy and everyone is their with their wife or kids or whatever. Anything with enough concussion to be obnoxious to other shooters is sus.

Re:Explaining British Naval Dominance During the Age of Sail by ggreer on Friday May 16, 2025 @02:39PM (#44008586)
I've noticed that even with good hearing protection (foamies + earmuffs), being next to loud guns (like .50BMG outdoors or most rifle calibers indoors) disorients me and causes me to feel a little strange for hours afterwards. I think that anyone who spends a lot of time near such explosions risks brain injury.

I'm pretty sure the effect comes from the sound and not something like toxic gasses because I never get the feeling shooting smaller calibers, nor do I get it when shooting with a silencer. It's too bad silencers are so restricted in the US. I think a lot of shooters would be in better health if they were more common.

Re:Explaining British Naval Dominance During the Age of Sail by fatbird on Friday May 16, 2025 @02:58PM (#44008756)
In the army I had the opportunity to fire the Carl Gustaf 84mm recoilless rifle, which is normally a two person job (one to hold, aim and fire, the other to load and check the backblast area).

We're instructed to exhale before firing because the concussion of the round leaving the front while its propellent leaves the back of the tube creates a brief vacuum. If you don't exhale, the air is forced out of your lungs so violently you feel like you got punched in the chest.

The noise is undoubtedly part of it, but the atmospheric effect is not insignificant, I think.

Re:Explaining British Naval Dominance During the Age of Sail by potato3732842 on Friday May 16, 2025 @05:48PM (#44010065)
>The noise is undoubtedly part of it, but the atmospheric effect is not insignificant, I think.

Yeah that's exactly why indoor ranges kind of suck for any serious rifle caliber.