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Re:The Cryptography Behind Passkeys by johnisgood on Wednesday May 14, 2025 @12:21PM (#43986345)
I'm not sure if this is satire. You trust the "cloud" and whatever does the syncing to the cloud? I definitely don't trust anything that "syncs to the cloud".
Re:The Cryptography Behind Passkeys by paulryanrogers on Wednesday May 14, 2025 @12:34PM (#43986497)
> I definitely don't trust anything that "syncs to the cloud".

What if you lose your device? Do you install alternate passkeys in a second device? Do you have to do that for every site and service?

Re:The Cryptography Behind Passkeys by johnisgood on Wednesday May 14, 2025 @01:47PM (#43987309)
I use KeePassXC, and I have backups, if that counts, at least for passwords/passphrases and TOTP.
Re:The Cryptography Behind Passkeys by lurking_swe on Wednesday May 14, 2025 @04:01PM (#43988598)
do you have offsite backups?
Re:The Cryptography Behind Passkeys by johnisgood on Thursday May 15, 2025 @03:48AM (#43992776)
I do not have any backups on any servers, I have them on other media that I have physical access to.
Re:The Cryptography Behind Passkeys by jonasdegendt on Wednesday May 14, 2025 @04:43PM (#43988987)
I read their comment to be “I trust myself to lose a hardware key, but not a software key that’s backed up and synced across all my devices.”

That’s one way to look at it: passkeys are just a more convenient form of authentication compared to passwords. Although in my mind you’re arguably not achieving a whole lot considering the security bottle neck is still the same, being the login to your password manager.

I use physical Yubikeys so I’m a bit out of the loop here, but are there any methods for protecting your root password to your password manager in this scenario?

Re:The Cryptography Behind Passkeys by recursive on Wednesday May 14, 2025 @05:44PM (#43989527)
Probably not satire. He/she doesn't need you to trust it for them to use it.
Re:The Cryptography Behind Passkeys by lxgr on Wednesday May 14, 2025 @06:29PM (#43989849)
Sure, why not? The cloud is just somebody else's computer, and if I don't trust that somebody to not take a peek, I'll make sure to encrypt my data first.

Many password managers do just that.

Re:The Cryptography Behind Passkeys by udev4096 on Thursday May 15, 2025 @03:17AM (#43992609)
It doesn't matter as long as it's encrypted. Use rclone crypt and upload to whatever "cloud" you want
Re:The Cryptography Behind Passkeys by johnisgood on Thursday May 15, 2025 @07:40AM (#43993970)
If it is encrypted (incl. the filenames), sure, but is it usually the case? If I do it manually, of course it would be, but all these modern "sync to cloud" solutions, I absolutely do not trust.